Mortar wrote to Accession <=-

Fire pits are great, especially if your camping with a group.
Everybody sitting around having a good time while a bon fire blazes
high into the night.

I've gone from being the guy hanging out at beach bonfires to hearing my daughter claim she was at her friend's house when her clothes smell
distinctly of bonfire smoke.



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Re: Re: Can't Get Anymore Ret
By: MRO to poindexter FORTRAN on Thu Jan 15 2026 06:30 pm

not for my generic char broil grill.
what do you know about cold weather? arent you in SF?

Didn't someone say "the coldest winter I experienced was a summer in San Francisco"?

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On 15 Jan 2026, Accession said the following...

On Thu, Jan 15 2026 10:15:44 -0600, you wrote:

California is a (mostly) 4 season grilling state - except when it's raining. Winter barbecuing does take a hell of a long time - the
cold air just sucks the heat out of the barbecue.

"Cold air" for you is what, 40F?

Get out there when it's -20F and get to grillin'! :D

i had a neighbor that grilled all winter long. we had a shared enclosed porch (so he had to go fully outside in the snow to do it) and if i was out there i'd see him go in and out in and out sometimes with or without a coat. must have been quite dedicated to it ;)

it's funny the story has nothing to do with me but since those were pretty good times it made me all nostalgic heh

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Re: Re: Can't Get Anymore Ret
By: fusion to Accession on Fri Jan 16 2026 09:02 am

California is a (mostly) 4 season grilling state - except when
it's raining. Winter barbecuing does take a hell of a long time -
the cold air just sucks the heat out of the barbecue.

"Cold air" for you is what, 40F?

Get out there when it's -20F and get to grillin'! :D

i had a neighbor that grilled all winter long. we had a shared enclosed porch (so he had to go fully outside in the snow to do it) and if i was out there i'd see him go in and out in and out sometimes with or without a coat. must have been quite dedicated to it ;)

I live in Utah, I grill all year round, Of coarse my grill and smoker are on the back patio that has a roof over it.
Steak and burgers are always better grilled IMHO.

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Hey Fusion!

On Fri, Jan 16 2026 03:02:00 -0600, you wrote:

i had a neighbor that grilled all winter long. we had a shared
enclosed porch (so he had to go fully outside in the snow to do it)
and if i was out there i'd see him go in and out in and out
sometimes with or without a coat. must have been quite dedicated to
it ;)

Enclosed?! That's still in the "silver spoons" category. When you have to shovel a path through a foot of snow, in slippers, to get to your grill, now that's a die-hard. ;)

it's funny the story has nothing to do with me but since those were
pretty good times it made me all nostalgic heh

All good. Even 'Chef Cuso' (probably from facebook/instagram fame who now has his own line of seasonings, etc) has done videos grilling in a blizzard, or when it's stupid cold outside. He's a Bills fan, so probably somewhere around Buffalo, NY.. where I'd say they probably have much more snow than us, but maybe not quite as cold.

I'd have to be craving something pretty bad to want to do any of that, though. Monday is supposed to be a high of 5F (at like 3pm) with 20mph winds. Should make the wind chill temp right around -20F. Perfect time to fire up the Weber. :D

Regards,
Nick

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Hey Poindexter!

On Fri, Jan 16 2026 10:16:13 -0600, you wrote:

Ac>> Get out there when it's -20F and get to grillin'! :D

Hey, it snowed here. Once. In 1978!

I was born and somewhat raised there. I know exactly what the temperature is like. If I ever were to go back there, I'd probably be in a t-shirt or hoodie all year long, and never have a need for a jacket. ;)

Regards,
Nick

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Hey Denn!

On Fri, Jan 16 2026 12:59:05 -0600, you wrote:

I live in Utah, I grill all year round, Of coarse my grill and
smoker are on the back patio that has a roof over it.

I think that may be my next adventure (putting a roof over my patio). I would definitely be out there grilling all year long if that were the case, but I currently don't feel like clearing the snow around my grills every week. ;)

Steak and burgers are always better grilled IMHO.

I'd say just about everything is better grilled or smoked. Any meat, of course, but veggies, potatoes, and even pizza!

Regards,
Nick

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poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Denn <=-

I went to San Francisco State University, which is right along the
ocean on the west side of town. I lived in a neighborhood aptly called
The Sunset District (ironic because you rarely see the sun).

Living and working out there, there were times I didn't see the sun for months - then realize I could drive or take the bus 2 miles east and
see beautiful sunny weather. Very strange.

Boy, that sounds like fun. <BOGGLE>

When the sun did come out, it was beautiful. Everyone would play hookey and go to the beach.

Maybe you should consider moving to the free state of Florida.



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Re: Re: Can't Get Anymore Ret
By: MIKE POWELL to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Thu Jan 15 2026 07:26 pm

California is a (mostly) 4 season grilling state - except
when it's raining. Winter barbecuing does take a hell of a long time
- the cold air just sucks the heat out of the barbecue.

I wonder how cold it gets around Mojave? ;)

i think all deserts get cold around the night time.
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Re: Re: Can't Get Anymore Ret
By: poindexter FORTRAN to MIKE POWELL on Fri Jan 16 2026 08:16 am

MIKE POWELL wrote to POINDEXTER FORTRAN <=-

California is a (mostly) 4 season grilling state - except when it's raining. Winter barbecuing does take a hell of a long time - the cold
air just sucks the heat out of the barbecue.

I wonder how cold it gets around Mojave? ;)

The deserts in California get their own kind of cold - low of 44,
high of 66 today. That's WINDBREAKER WEATHER! Break out the chapstick

oh god 44f! that's horrible!
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Mortar wrote to Gamgee <=-

Re: Re: Can't Get Anymore Ret
By: Gamgee to poindexter FORTRAN on Fri Jan 16 2026 17:20:56

Maybe you should consider moving to the free state of Florida.

If you like getting socked by huricans every year.

I've lived here for 24 years now, and have been impacted by exactly 2 hurricanes. So, meh. Not true.

BTW, what makes it "free"?

The gub'ner. Here's more:

https://www.jacksonville.com/story/news/2024/07/10/desantis-free-state-of-florida-added-signs-state-line/74348927007/


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poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Denn <=-

I live in Utah, I grill all year round, Of coarse my grill and smoker
are on the back patio that has a roof over it.
Steak and burgers are always better grilled IMHO.

I miss my Weber. I had a local source for mesquite wood, and loved to grill with it. I had a dinner party, did a tri-tip, and one of the
guests bit into a piece of it, his eyes opened wide, and he said,
through a mouthful of meat, "I hate my gas grill now".

The Weber is only as far away as your nearest Lowes/HomeDepot.

Git-R-Done.




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Mortar wrote to Gamgee <=-

Re: Re: Can't Get Anymore Ret
By: Gamgee to Mortar on Sat Jan 17 2026 08:27:47

I've lived here for 24 years now, and have been impacted by exactly 2 hurricanes. So, meh. Not true.

Just because they didn't impact you, doesn't mean they didn't happen. According to the Florida Climate Center, there have been nine hurricans
in the last 10 years, so yeah, kinda true.

I didn't say they didn't happen. Go back and read what I actually said,
if you need to.

Since, like many trolls, you like to snip the context to try and make
your point, I'll restore what you snipped:

"If you like getting socked by huricans every year."

That's what you said just prior to my statement that I'd been impacted
by TWO hurricanes in TWENTY FOUR years.

Perhaps you don't know this - Florida is a big state. Just because a hurricane (note spelling) hits Florida does not mean each individual
citizen in Florida is affected. As I already said, I've been affected
twice in 24 years. That works out to an 8% chance of "getting socked"
by a hurricane. Considering the benefits of being here, sounds good to
me.

Now run along and play your games with someone else.



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Re: Re: Can't Get Anymore Ret
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Denn on Sat Jan 17 2026 09:57 am

I live in Utah, I grill all year round, Of coarse my grill and
smoker are on the back patio that has a roof over it.
Steak and burgers are always better grilled IMHO.

I miss my Weber. I had a local source for mesquite wood, and loved to grill with it. I had a dinner party, did a tri-tip, and one of the
guests bit into a piece of it, his eyes opened wide, and he said,
through a mouthful of meat, "I hate my gas grill now".

I actually have two smokers, I use the bullet smoher mainly to smoke fish.
The other smoker gets used for steak, burgers, chicken, pork etc..
The bullet smoker can use charcol or propane, the other smoker is electric.

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Re: Re: Can't Get Anymore Ret
By: Accession to Denn on Sun Jan 18 2026 06:04 am

Most the people I know are getting Traeger grills. They're electric
wood pellet grills, pretty pricey but you can smoke a brisket to
perfection.

As someone that has had a Traeger for like 15 years now, you're just paying for the name (yes, I got suckered, too). You can do the exact same thing and get the same flavor with just about any smoker half the price.

My electric grill is not a traeger, can't remember the brand, I got it at the memorial day sale at RCwilley's furniture as a door buster.


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Re: Re: Can't Get Anymore Ret
By: Denn to poindexter FORTRAN on Sat Jan 17 2026 10:32 pm

Most the people I know are getting Traeger grills. They're electric wood pellet grills, pretty pricey but you can smoke a brisket to perfection.

I think many of the people I've known with grills have a Weber. But the various other brands are popular too, including Traeger.

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Re: Re: Can't Get Anymore Ret
By: Accession to Denn on Sun Jan 18 2026 06:04 am

As someone that has had a Traeger for like 15 years now, you're just paying for the name (yes, I got suckered, too). You can do the exact same thing and get the same flavor with just about any smoker half the price.

I know of Traeger, but what is it about their name? Most people I know who own or have owned grills, most of the time it has been a Weber.

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Re: Re: Can't Get Anymore Ret
By: Denn to Accession on Sun Jan 18 2026 07:28:30

My electric grill...I got it at the memorial day sale at RCwilley's furniture as a door buster.

Wouldn't a sledge hammer be more effective? ;)

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Hey Denn!

On Sun, Jan 18 2026 18:04:20 -0600, you wrote:

Yep that's what we all said in previous messages.

I know, but the person I was replying to seemed confused and was still comparing them like they were the same.

Regards,
Nick

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