• Message Pointers / Multi-user Access

    From Amessyroom@1:396/4 to All on Sunday, February 23, 2025 04:37:43
    From: "Amessyroom" <[email protected]-yeu-this>

    How does message pointers work with synchronet bbs? My understanding is there is a read pointer and new pointer. But how do the move when a user logins in an reads messages, and then returns?

    Can a user of synchronet bbs login more than one time, and the pointers keep in sync; or if messages are read during a ftelnet session and a synchronet telnet sessions; could the pointers get skewed/confused due to multiple access under the same account ?

    I've noticed times, when I read messages and I come back a day or two later, and the pointer has fallen back to messages I have read.

    Do DDMSGReader and Native Msg reader work similarly ? I assume they are using the same pointers, to manage where a user has read to, correct ?
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  • From MRO@1:396/4 to All on Sunday, February 23, 2025 09:07:54
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    To: Amessyroom
    Re: Message Pointers / Multi-user Access
    By: Amessyroom to All on Sun Feb 23 2025 03:37 pm

    How does message pointers work with synchronet bbs? My understanding is there is a read pointer and new pointer. But how do the move when a user logins in an reads messages, and then returns?

    Can a user of synchronet bbs login more than one time, and the pointers keep in sync; or if messages are read during a ftelnet session and a synchronet telnet sessions; could the pointers get skewed/confused due to multiple

    it ####s up for me if i lost my connection.
    what problems are you having?
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  • From Digital Man@1:396/4 to All on Sunday, February 23, 2025 06:09:39
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    To: Amessyroom
    Re: Message Pointers / Multi-user Access
    By: Amessyroom to All on Sun Feb 23 2025 03:37 pm

    How does message pointers work with synchronet bbs? My understanding is there is a read pointer and new pointer. But how do the move when a user logins in an reads messages, and then returns?

    Message pointers are saved when a user logs-off, disconnects, or uses the '&W' command to save them while logged-on.

    Can a user of synchronet bbs login more than one time, and the pointers keep in sync; or if messages are read during a ftelnet session and a synchronet telnet sessions; could the pointers get skewed/confused due to multiple access under the same account ?

    The pointers are read during logon and kept in memory until log-off/disconnect. A second login can use the '&R' command to reload the message pointers from disk if they know the other session has read some messages. The last one to log-off/disconnect will have *their* message pointers saved, but only for the sub-boards they actually read messages in.

    I've noticed times, when I read messages and I come back a day or two later, and the pointer has fallen back to messages I have read.

    If you're logging into the terminal server concurrently with the same account, that could explain that.

    Do DDMSGReader and Native Msg reader work similarly ? I assume they are using the same pointers, to manage where a user has read to, correct ?

    I think so.
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  • From MRO@1:396/4 to All on Sunday, February 23, 2025 11:29:05
    From: "MRO" <[email protected]-ggk-this>

    To: Digital Man
    Re: Message Pointers / Multi-user Access
    By: Digital Man to Amessyroom on Sun Feb 23 2025 08:09 pm

    '&W' command to save them while logged-on.



    oh i didnt know about that. is that documented or is it in one of the whatsnew files?
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  • From Digital Man@1:396/4 to All on Sunday, February 23, 2025 08:53:41
    From: "Digital Man" <[email protected]-6re-this>

    To: MRO
    Re: Message Pointers / Multi-user Access
    By: MRO to Digital Man on Sun Feb 23 2025 11:29 pm

    Re: Message Pointers / Multi-user Access
    By: Digital Man to Amessyroom on Sun Feb 23 2025 08:09 pm

    '&W' command to save them while logged-on.



    oh i didnt know about that. is that documented or is it in one of the whatsnew files?

    It's on the '&' menu in the default command shell:

    ┌────────────────────────────┐
    │ Message Scan Configuration │
    └─▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀┘▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄
    █ N Areas to scan for new messages ▀█
    █ S Areas to scan for your messages █
    █ P Set new-scan pointers █
    █ I Reinitialize new-scan pointers █
    █ R Reload new-scan config & pointers █
    █ W Save new-scan config & pointers █
    █▓───────────────────────────────────▓█
    █ Q Quit to Main/Message menu █
    ██▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄██

    in v320_new.txt:
    o New stock JavaScript modules:
    - msgscancfg.js and filescancfg.js
    Replaces logic previously copy/pasted into multiple Baja command shells

    and in the Git commit log: https://gitlab.synchro.net/main/sbbs/-/commit/bb5b9d869
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  • From Nightfox@1:396/4 to All on Sunday, February 23, 2025 20:14:33
    From: "Nightfox" <[email protected]-qjl-this>

    To: Amessyroom
    Re: Message Pointers / Multi-user Access
    By: Amessyroom to All on Sun Feb 23 2025 03:37 pm

    Do DDMSGReader and Native Msg reader work similarly ? I assume they are using the same pointers, to manage where a user has read to, correct ?

    DDMsgReader is using the same pointers (as far as I know) and should behave the same.

    Nightfox

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  • From Amessyroom@1:396/4 to All on Monday, February 24, 2025 03:29:16
    From: "Amessyroom" <[email protected]-903-this>

    To: MRO
    Re: Message Pointers / Multi-user Access
    By: MRO to Amessyroom on Sun Feb 23 2025 09:07 pm

    Re: Message Pointers / Multi-user Access By: Amessyroom to All on Sun Feb 23 2025 03:37 pm

    How does message pointers work with synchronet bbs? My understanding is
    there is a read pointer and new pointer. But how do the move when a user
    logins in an reads messages, and then returns?

    Can a user of synchronet bbs login more than one time, and the pointers
    keep in sync; or if messages are read during a ftelnet session and a
    synchronet telnet sessions; could the pointers get skewed/confused due to
    multiple

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    I read through a group; and then come back later and it reloads -- and brings back messages I've seen.

    So obviously, I just need to read at one place. Or be sure to go to messages and &W; before jump to another session.
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  • From Amessyroom@1:396/4 to All on Monday, February 24, 2025 03:31:04
    From: "Amessyroom" <[email protected]-903-this>

    To: Digital Man
    Re: Message Pointers / Multi-user Access
    By: Digital Man to Amessyroom on Sun Feb 23 2025 08:09 pm

    How does message pointers work with synchronet bbs? My understanding is
    there is a read pointer and new pointer. But how do the move when a user
    logins in an reads messages, and then returns?

    Message pointers are saved when a user logs-off, disconnects, or uses the '&W' command to save them while logged-on.

    Can a user of synchronet bbs login more than one time, and the pointers
    keep in sync; or if messages are read during a ftelnet session and a
    synchronet telnet sessions; could the pointers get skewed/confused due to
    multiple access under the same account ?

    The pointers are read during logon and kept in memory until log-off/disconnect. A second login can use the '&R' command to reload the message pointers from disk if they know the other session has read some messages. The last one to log-off/disconnect will have *their* message pointers saved, but only for the sub-boards they actually read messages in.

    Thanks for the explanation. I will try and login from one location when doing mail.
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  • From Amessyroom@1:396/4 to All on Monday, February 24, 2025 03:32:04
    From: "Amessyroom" <[email protected]-903-this>

    To: Nightfox
    Re: Message Pointers / Multi-user Access
    By: Nightfox to Amessyroom on Mon Feb 24 2025 10:14 am

    Do DDMSGReader and Native Msg reader work similarly ? I assume they are
    using the same pointers, to manage where a user has read to, correct ?

    DDMsgReader is using the same pointers (as far as I know) and should behave the same.

    Nightfox

    Thanks Nightfox
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