so i run the current prealpha version of Mystic to test withy the latest test version of PXW v10.0 and it looks like mystic only negotiates binkp 1.0 instead of 1.1. Is there a reason for this, esp since most sites use v1.1 of the protocol?

... Computers all wait at the same speed!

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On 12 May 2026, Robert Wolfe said the following...

so i run the current prealpha version of Mystic to test withy the latest test version of PXW v10.0 and it looks like mystic only negotiates binkp 1.0 instead of 1.1. Is there a reason for this, esp since most sites
use v1.1 of the protocol?

Unless the author does something about it I don't think so.

I pass mail all the time "NOW" with wcBinkP and Mystic no problem. Mystic is not quite "Abandon-ware"... The Author does poke his head in every few years to kick the code on an issue or 2.

There is a computability file in your \pxw\sysytem\ folder called binkp-compat.cfg <---- I think its a CFG file... Edit it with a text editor.

BTW, I saw your question on not being able to poll a NODE... Check ypur poll que as you might have to delete an exhausted poll there.

I found things out the hard way... PXW will not let you adjust the font from Large to small. PXW will have it LARGE whereas Mystic might be small.

If this is the case, Mystic can call PXW but not you calling Mystic.

Though I could have changed the font size in Mystic I just went with the use of NUMBERS only for passwords.

Problem solved!!!!

IB Joe, Pronouns (FJB/LGB)
AKA Joe Schweier
SysOp of 4A 6F 65 73 42 42 53
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--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A49 2023/04/30 (Windows/64)
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On 12 May 2026, Robert Wolfe said the following...

so i run the current prealpha version of Mystic to test withy the latest test version of PXW v10.0 and it looks like mystic only negotiates binkp 1.0 instead of 1.1. Is there a reason for this, esp since most sites
use v1.1 of the protocol?

afaik mystic is all standard kit so you could possibly just use the husky stuff, binkd, etc. if you wanted to give it a try i'm curious how well it goes..

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/25 (Windows/32)
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Hey Alexander!

On Fri, May 15 2026 15:19:30 -0500, you wrote:

afaik mystic is all standard kit so you could possibly just use the
husky stuff, binkd, etc. if you wanted to give it a try i'm curious
how well it goes..

You definitely don't have to use Mystic's built in mailer or tosser. Any tosser that supports JAM message bases would probably work fine, and there's quite a few people that already use binkp with it. Whether they had issues initially setting up the built in mailer, or used to use a different mailer before they switched to Mystic, and kept using their old stuff, or there were features in a different mailer they wanted, etc.

Regards,
Nick

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On May 15, 2026 12:35pm, IB Joe wrote to Robert Wolfe:

If this is the case, Mystic can call PXW but not you calling Mystic.

I don't have any connection issues between the two. Just thought I would mention it.

Though I could have changed the font size in Mystic I just went with
the use of NUMBERS only for passwords.

Problem solved!!!!

And reported in the correct area. :)

IB Joe, Pronouns (FJB/LGB)
AKA Joe Schweier
SysOp of 4A 6F 65 73 42 42 53
-=JoesBBS.com=-

... Youth is glorious, but it isn't a career

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A49 2023/04/30 (Windows/64)
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--- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v10.0b27
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I found things out the hard way... PXW will not let you adjust the font from Large to small. PXW will have it LARGE whereas Mystic might be small.

Yeah, I asked my nixnet uplink to change my passwords to all numbers for this very reason.

... No one knows what's next, but everybody does it.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A49 2024/05/29 (Windows/64)
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Hey Robert!

On Fri, 22 May 2026 07:19:30 -0400, you wrote:

I found things out the hard way... PXW will not let you adjust the
font from Large to small. PXW will have it LARGE whereas Mystic
might be small.

Yeah, I asked my nixnet uplink to change my passwords to all numbers for this very reason.

Let me get this straight..

If you're using a different font size in PXW, some authentication password with Mystic doesn't work? I don't think Mystic uses font sizes, since it is pretty much console specific.

Aside from that, I've witnessed (and asked you about it) when you change your fonts locally, it seems to mess up your messages that leave your system by wrapping very early and messing up quoted text (this issue had nothing to do with Mystic, even).

This almost seems more like a PXW issue at this point? Even if it wasn't, there's probably also a better chance of getting it fixed/addressed these days (in PXW) since you're getting updates, and the Mystic systems are not.

Regards,
Nick

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On 22 May 2026, Robert Wolfe said the following...

I found things out the hard way... PXW will not let you adjust the fo from Large to small. PXW will have it LARGE whereas Mystic might be small.

Yeah, I asked my nixnet uplink to change my passwords to all numbers for this very reason.

It looks like PXW/BinkP may have this issue fixed soon. Too bad PXW didn't have BinkP implemented some decades ago...

So, we are thankful today it is, and they are working though the issues.

You have to like what BBS software has to offer now a days... WildCat/Mystic/Synchronet rule the day!!

IB Joe, Pronouns (FJB/LGB)
AKA Joe Schweier
SysOp of 4A 6F 65 73 42 42 53
-=JoesBBS.com=-

... Real Programmers balance their checkbooks in hex

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A49 2023/04/30 (Windows/64)
* Origin: JoesBBS.Com, Telnet:23 SSH:22 HTTP:80 (1:342/201)

On 30 May 2026, Nick Boel said the following...

Let me get this straight..

This almost seems more like a PXW issue at this point? Even if it wasn't, there's probably also a better chance of getting it fixed/addressed
these days (in PXW) since you're getting updates, and the Mystic systems are not.

It is/was... Hector looks like he's fixing it in the next release... I found that systems could call me, and authenticate OK, but I couldn't call them because the authentication process failed on my side.

I found the case sensitivity to be the issue, changed all the passwords to number and solved the issue, for me, told Hector and he'll fix it.

We are soooooooo lucky that we have people still developing our technology!!!

IB Joe, Pronouns (FJB/LGB)
AKA Joe Schweier
SysOp of 4A 6F 65 73 42 42 53
-=JoesBBS.com=-

... Users come in two types: Those who have lost data, and those who will.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A49 2023/04/30 (Windows/64)
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On May 30, 2026 04:58am, Nick Boel wrote to Robert Wolfe:

Hey Robert!

On Fri, 22 May 2026 07:19:30 -0400, you wrote:

I found things out the hard way... PXW will not let

you adjust the

font from Large to small. PXW will have it LARGE

whereas Mystic

might be small.

Yeah, I asked my nixnet uplink to change my passwords to

all numbers for

this very reason.

Let me get this straight..

If you're using a different font size in PXW, some

authentication

password with Mystic doesn't work? I don't think Mystic

uses font

sizes, since it is pretty much console specific.

not what I mean. I mean PXW always sends session passwords
iun uppewr

Aside from that, I've witnessed (and asked you about

it) when you

change your fonts locally, it seems to mess up your

messages that leave

your system by wrapping very early and messing up

quoted text (this

issue had nothing to do with Mystic, even).

This almost seems more like a PXW issue at this point?

Even if it

wasn't, there's probably also a better chance of

getting it

fixed/addressed these days (in PXW) since you're

getting updates, and

the Mystic systems are not.

I am taking the 5th on this. I think i'm alreay omn HLS'
twitlist (putting it nicely) these days.

... when all else fails, destroy all evidence you tried.
--- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v10.0b35
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On May 30, 2026 09:30am, IB Joe wrote to Robert Wolfe:

On 22 May 2026, Robert Wolfe said the following...

I found things out the hard way... PXW will not

let you adjust

the fo

from Large to small. PXW will have it LARGE

whereas Mystic might

be

small.

Yeah, I asked my nixnet uplink to change my passwords

to all numbers

for
this very reason.

It looks like PXW/BinkP may have this issue fixed soon.

Too bad PXW

didn't have BinkP implemented some decades ago...

hopefully.

So, we are thankful today it is, and they are working

though the issues.

You have to like what BBS software has to offer now a

days...

WildCat/Mystic/Synchronet rule the day!!

IMHO Wildcat! always has! :)

... when all else fails, destroy all evidence you tried.
--- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v10.0b35
* Origin: Over the Brink : Grand Island, NY - brinkbbs.org (1:261/20)

Hey IB!

On Sat, 30 May 2026 09:30:32 -0600, you wrote:

It is/was... Hector looks like he's fixing it in the next release... I
found that systems could call me, and authenticate OK, but I couldn't
call them because the authentication process failed on my side.

Great news!

I found the case sensitivity to be the issue, changed all the passwords
to number and solved the issue, for me, told Hector and he'll fix it.

If case sensitivity was the issue, did you try using all uppercase (which seems to be a trend older softwares that haven't been updated used)?

We are soooooooo lucky that we have people still developing our technology!!!

Agreed!

Regards,
Nick

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On 30 May 2026, Robert Wolfe said the following...

not what I mean. I mean PXW always sends session passwords
iun uppewr

Robert, like I have said in the past... I am not a programmer... I have does this for ~35 years and I have some logic skills.

I had a setup for decades and once I started using wcBinkP I got grief. I would get a password failure if I called for mail but not when they called for mail. This was a mystic system and a D'Bridge system.

I had THEM send me mail until I figured it out... and when I did I just started using numbers rather than worry about font size.

This did cost me a couple days of frustration... Why were the non-WildCat mailers more forgiving?? I don't know... Whatever was in their code should be added.

For now I use numbers only and I told Hector and he's fixing this for the next release.

IB Joe, Pronouns (FJB/LGB)
AKA Joe Schweier
SysOp of 4A 6F 65 73 42 42 53
-=JoesBBS.com=-

... A book in the hand is worth two on the shelf!

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A49 2023/04/30 (Windows/64)
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On 30 May 2026, Robert Wolfe said the following...

IMHO Wildcat! always has! :)

I bought WildCat 5 when it came out... I prepaid for my copy and had to wait to get my copy "Official Release". Both WildCat and Synchronet are 100000 miles from where they were and their is still development on both those systems... Mystic author pokes his head in every once in a while to fix any issues.

Sometimes some of this stuff is more than I need but I am happy we still have some movement on this technology.

We have to keep things going... Zombie Apocalypse is on the horizon and we'll be needed in the future.

IB Joe, Pronouns (FJB/LGB)
AKA Joe Schweier
SysOp of 4A 6F 65 73 42 42 53
-=JoesBBS.com=-

... Everyone is entitled to my opinion!

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A49 2023/04/30 (Windows/64)
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On 31 May 2026, Nick Boel said the following...

If case sensitivity was the issue, did you try using all uppercase
(which seems to be a trend older softwares that haven't been updated used)?

Um, the PXW mailer wouldn't let you change case... So numbers it was ... an easy enough fix for me. I did make the Author aware of what happened to me ONLY because I wouldn't want to see anyone else go though what I did.

Anyway, I welcomed the challenge and I'm moving on to my next one.

IB Joe, Pronouns (FJB/LGB)
AKA Joe Schweier
SysOp of 4A 6F 65 73 42 42 53
-=JoesBBS.com=-

... Everyone has a photographic memory. Some don't have film.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A49 2023/04/30 (Windows/64)
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On May 15, 2026 12:35pm, IB Joe wrote to Robert Wolfe:

If this is the case, Mystic can call PXW but not you calling Mystic.

I don't have any connection issues between the two. Just thought I would mention it.

Robert... I just want to say... I read your message on my Mystic BBS and
it does not look the same as it does here on WildCat.

This reads nicer here, whereas there was spacing issues in Mystic.


--- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v10.0b25
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Yeah, I asked my nixnet uplink to change my passwords to all numbers for this
very reason.

... No one knows what's next, but everybody does it.

Yes, Robert... This message reads nicely in WildCat... messed up a
little in Mystic.

Night and day!!!

--- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v10.0b25
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On May 31, 2026 02:30pm, IB Joe wrote to Robert Wolfe:

I had a setup for decades and once I started using

wcBinkP I got grief.

I would get a password failure if I called for mail

but not when they

called for mail. This was a mystic system and a

D'Bridge system.

I had THEM send me mail until I figured it out... and

when I did I just

started using numbers rather than worry about font

size.

This did cost me a couple days of frustration... Why

were the

non-WildCat mailers more forgiving?? I don't know...

Whatever was in

their code should be added.

For now I use numbers only and I told Hector and he's

fixing this for

the next release.

he needs to fix a lot before the next release. Like his
attitude and customer service skills. But, I digress.

... when all else fails, destroy all evidence you tried.
--- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v10.0b40
* Origin: Over the Brink : Grand Island, NY - brinkbbs.org (1:261/20)

On May 31, 2026 02:44pm, IB Joe wrote to Nick Boel:

Um, the PXW mailer wouldn't let you change case... So

numbers it was

... an easy enough fix for me. I did make the Author

aware of what

happened to me ONLY because I wouldn't want to see

anyone else go

though what I did.

Too late, someone else is.

... when all else fails, destroy all evidence you tried.
--- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v10.0b40
* Origin: Over the Brink : Grand Island, NY - brinkbbs.org (1:261/20)

On May 31, 2026 04:12pm, Ib Joe wrote to Robert Wolfe:

On May 15, 2026 12:35pm, IB Joe wrote to Robert Wolfe:

If this is the case, Mystic can call PXW but not

you calling Mystic.

I don't have any connection issues between the two.

Just thought I would

mention it.

Robert... I just want to say... I read your message on

my Mystic BBS and

it does not look the same as it does here on WildCat.

This reads nicer here, whereas there was spacing issues

in Mystic.

--- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v10.0b25
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nothing i can rerally do except change editor font in
pxtools, but the one they use is hard for me to see a kittle
dso i had tro use a bolder font.

... when all else fails, destroy all evidence you tried.
--- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v10.0b40
* Origin: Over the Brink : Grand Island, NY - brinkbbs.org (1:261/20)

On 31 May 2026, Robert Wolfe said the following...

he needs to fix a lot before the next release. Like his
attitude and customer service skills. But, I digress.

I'm not an envelope pusher... Once I get the mail running I look away.

IB Joe, Pronouns (FJB/LGB)
AKA Joe Schweier
SysOp of 4A 6F 65 73 42 42 53
-=JoesBBS.com=-

... Documentation: The worst part of programming.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A49 2023/04/30 (Windows/64)
* Origin: JoesBBS.Com, Telnet:23 SSH:22 HTTP:80 (1:342/201)

Hey IB!

On Sun, 31 May 2026 12:30:50 -0600, you wrote:

This did cost me a couple days of frustration... Why were the
non-WildCat mailers more forgiving?? I don't know... Whatever was in
their code should be added.

I don't think it's about being forgiving. Case sensitivity and breaking the old eight character limit allows for many more password combinations. I would chalk those old limits up to security flaws in this day and age.

Regards,
Nick

... Sarcasm: because beating people up is illegal.
--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20260425
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On 01 Jun 2026, Nick Boel said the following...

Hey IB!

On Sun, 31 May 2026 12:30:50 -0600, you wrote:

This did cost me a couple days of frustration... Why were the non-WildCat mailers more forgiving?? I don't know... Whatever was in their code should be added.

I don't think it's about being forgiving. Case sensitivity and breaking the old eight character limit allows for many more password
combinations. I would chalk those old limits up to security flaws in
this day and age.

agreed.

... Nine times out of ten the statisticians are wrong

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A49 2024/05/29 (Windows/64)
* Origin: Over the Brink - Grand Island NY - brinkbbs.org (1:261/20)

On 01 Jun 2026, Nick Boel said the following...

I don't think it's about being forgiving. Case sensitivity and breaking the old eight character limit allows for many more password
combinations. I would chalk those old limits up to security flaws in
this day and age.

You're right... I talk like a non-programmer, AKA I don't have a clue, to me it's magic how things work and I'm grateful there are people out there with the ability to fix the magic.

IB Joe, Pronouns (FJB/LGB)
AKA Joe Schweier
SysOp of 4A 6F 65 73 42 42 53
-=JoesBBS.com=-

... A .GIF is worth a thousand .TXT.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A49 2023/04/30 (Windows/64)
* Origin: JoesBBS.Com, Telnet:23 SSH:22 HTTP:80 (1:342/201)

On Jun 02, 2026 07:53am, IB Joe wrote to Nick Boel:

On 01 Jun 2026, Nick Boel said the following...

I don't think it's about being forgiving. Case sensitivity and

breaking

the old eight character limit allows for many more password
combinations. I would chalk those old limits up to security

flaws in

this day and age.

You're right... I talk like a non-programmer, AKA I don't have

a clue,

to me it's magic how things work and I'm grateful there are

people out

there with the ability to fix the magic.

The trick therein lies if the people who can do the magic are
willing to do so, if you catch my drift.

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On Jun 02, 2026 07:53am, IB Joe wrote to Nick Boel:

The trick therein lies if the people who can do the magic are
willing to do so, if you catch my drift.

I do... and my netmail routing was setup... Freaked me out getting
netmail I haven't got a netmail in years!!!

Joe
--- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v10.0b25
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On 02 Jun 2026, Robert Wolfe said the following...

The trick therein lies if the people who can do the magic are
willing to do so, if you catch my drift.

You made some magic happen... setting the environment variable in the batch file as I try to toss qwk packets worked and now I use your qwknet program and I'm tossing qwk mail all the time now.

Lets celebrate the victories each day...

IB Joe, Pronouns (FJB/LGB)
AKA Joe Schweier
SysOp of 4A 6F 65 73 42 42 53
-=JoesBBS.com=-

... A Mystic asking for a hot-dog: "Make me one with everything"

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A49 2023/04/30 (Windows/64)
* Origin: JoesBBS.Com, Telnet:23 SSH:22 HTTP:80 (1:342/201)