Re: Re: Net124
By: Wilfred van Velzen to Nigel Reed on Wed Feb 19 2025 21:36:14

Well, it looks like I'm the new NC for Net 124 in R19.

Congrats! Or my condolences, whatever you feel appropriate. ;-)

Thanks, I think, or not.

First I don't think I ever used the "fuck(in)" word. I mostly stick to technical comments, but sometimes a segment has so many easy to avoid errors, that the *C deserves a provocative response. ;-)

Easy for you, maybe not for others. I barely even look at a nodelist let alone know all the parameters.

I haven't seen a change yet in the daily. But if you post it here or in a private netmail if you like, we can comment up front.

Host,124,Net_Coordinator,Plano_Tx,Nigel_Reed,-Unpublished-,300,CM,XA,INA:bbs.endofthelinebbs.com,IBN,PING
Pvt,1113,Nibbles_&_Bytes,Richardson_TX,Ron_Bemis,-Unpublished-,300,XA Down,5009,Family_Net_BBS,Sachse_TX,R_Hoffman,-Unpublished-,300,INA:fmlynet.dyndns.org,ITN,IBN:24556,IFT
,5016,End_Of_The_Line_BBS,Plano_Tx,Nigel_Reed,-Unpublished-,300,CM,XA,INA:bbs.endofthelinebbs.com,IBN,PING
Down,5019,Southern_Charm_BBS,Plano_Tx,Lawrence_Stockman,-Unpublished-,300,CM,XA,INA:southerncharmbbs.com,IBN

I expect Southern Charm to show up on the no valid dns list. I'll see if I can get hold of Lawrence and figure his intentions.

Same with Hoffman.

I'll be using makenl on Linux, if it matters.

If it's just you as only node left in the net, that might be overkill, just edit it by hand.

Probably, but you never know. We might get a BBS explosion!

Thanks,
Nigel
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Hi Nigel,

On 2025-02-19 18:23:12, you wrote to me:

Well, it looks like I'm the new NC for Net 124 in R19.

Congrats! Or my condolences, whatever you feel appropriate. ;-)

Thanks, I think, or not.

;-)

First I don't think I ever used the "fuck(in)" word. I mostly stick to
technical comments, but sometimes a segment has so many easy to avoid
errors, that the *C deserves a provocative response. ;-)

Easy for you, maybe not for others. I barely even look at a nodelist let alone
know all the parameters.

There is plenty of documentation to be found, if one just cares to put a little bit of time into it, or ask help from others, if you don't know where to start...

I haven't seen a change yet in the daily. But if you post it here or in
a private netmail if you like, we can comment up front.

Host,124,Net_Coordinator,Plano_Tx,Nigel_Reed,-Unpublished-,300,CM,XA,INA:bbs.e
ndofthelinebbs.com,IBN,PING

The XA flag is definitly wrong. If you have a file request processor active along your Binkd, at best you can have XW or XX if it supports update requests.

Pvt,1113,Nibbles_&_Bytes,Richardson_TX,Ron_Bemis,-
Unpublished-,300,XA

A file request flag makes no sense for a Pvt node, so the XA flag can be left out.

Down,5009,Family_Net_BBS,Sachse_TX,R_Hoffman,-Unpublished- ,300,INA:fmlynet.dyndns.org,ITN,IBN:24556,IFT

,5016,End_Of_The_Line_BBS,Plano_Tx,Nigel_Reed,-Unpublished-,300,CM,XA, INA:bbs.endofthelinebbs.com,IBN,PING

Same remark for the XA flag.

Down,5019,Southern_Charm_BBS,Plano_Tx,Lawrence_Stockman,-Unpublished-, 300,CM,XA,INA:southerncharmbbs.com,IBN

I expect Southern Charm to show up on the no valid dns list. I'll see if I can
get hold of Lawrence and figure his intentions.

Same with Hoffman.

Ok...

If it's just you as only node left in the net, that might be overkill,
just edit it by hand.

Probably, but you never know. We might get a BBS explosion!

We all have our dreams! ;-)


Bye, Wilfred.

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On Thu, 20 Feb 2025 10:39:14 +0100
"Wilfred van Velzen" (2:280/464)
<[email protected]t> wrote:

Hi Nigel,

On 2025-02-19 18:23:12, you wrote to me:

Well, it looks like I'm the new NC for Net 124 in R19.

Congrats! Or my condolences, whatever you feel appropriate. ;-)

Thanks, I think, or not.

;-)

First I don't think I ever used the "fuck(in)" word. I mostly
stick to technical comments, but sometimes a segment has so many
easy to avoid errors, that the *C deserves a provocative
response. ;-)

Easy for you, maybe not for others. I barely even look at a
nodelist let alone know all the parameters.

There is plenty of documentation to be found, if one just cares to
put a little bit of time into it, or ask help from others, if you
don't know where to start...

I haven't seen a change yet in the daily. But if you post it here
or in a private netmail if you like, we can comment up front.

Host,124,Net_Coordinator,Plano_Tx,Nigel_Reed,-Unpublished-,300,CM,XA,INA:bbs.e
ndofthelinebbs.com,IBN,PING

The XA flag is definitly wrong. If you have a file request processor
active along your Binkd, at best you can have XW or XX if it supports
update requests.

Pvt,1113,Nibbles_&_Bytes,Richardson_TX,Ron_Bemis,-
Unpublished-,300,XA

A file request flag makes no sense for a Pvt node, so the XA flag can
be left out.

Down,5009,Family_Net_BBS,Sachse_TX,R_Hoffman,-Unpublished- ,300,INA:fmlynet.dyndns.org,ITN,IBN:24556,IFT

,5016,End_Of_The_Line_BBS,Plano_Tx,Nigel_Reed,-Unpublished-,300,CM,XA, INA:bbs.endofthelinebbs.com,IBN,PING

Same remark for the XA flag.

Down,5019,Southern_Charm_BBS,Plano_Tx,Lawrence_Stockman,-Unpublished-, 300,CM,XA,INA:southerncharmbbs.com,IBN

I expect Southern Charm to show up on the no valid dns list.
I'll see if I can get hold of Lawrence and figure his
intentions.

Same with Hoffman.

Ok...

If it's just you as only node left in the net, that might be
overkill, just edit it by hand.

Probably, but you never know. We might get a BBS explosion!

We all have our dreams! ;-)

Bye, Wilfred.

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Thanks, I'll fix those before Thursday.
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Hello, Atreyu!

Wednesday June 17 2026 18:51, from Atreyu -> Nil Alexandrov:

Oops... you're not replying to anything specific here, so I lack
context. D the nodelist police ask you to change your node number?

The "nodelist police" have no authority on anything, other than being
a pair of effeminate dutch twats.

If the nodelist police are going to keep issuing citations for improper nodelist flags, then they ought to have a proper coordinator title.

We've got Z1C, R16C, NCs, NECs, RECs, ZECs, and enough coordinators to coordinate the coordinators. The logical next step is obviously NLC: Nodelist Coordinator.

That way when somebody gets a sternly-worded nodelist-police's echomail demanding they fucked up the nodelist flags after twenty years, we can all say:
"Sorry, that's above my pay grade. You'll have to take it up with the NLC."

As for the alleged Dutch twats, perhaps they should form a special subcommittee: DNLC - Dutch Nodelist Compliance.

Their motto could be: "Wooden shoes, wooden heads, wooden node numbers."

Best Regards, Nil
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Hello, Nigel!

Thursday June 18 2026 02:07, from Nigel Reed -> Nil Alexandrov:

Another "hack" is to put your name in CC - your tosser should place
it in the carbon copy area. Well, that depends on your tosser; I
don't know much about SBBSecho software.

If someone addresses an echomail directly to me, Synchronet will let
me know about it. If it's a general whine then I won't.

I was born in Z2 and grew up with GoldED in one hand and a pile of .QWK, Blue Wave and point mail packets in the other. To this day I still struggle to understand why so much of Z1 seems centered around having BBSes.

Did the nodelist police ask you to change your node number?

WTF?

Best Regards, Nil
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Hi Nil,

On 2026-06-25 13:29:50, you wrote to Atreyu:

If the nodelist police are going to keep issuing citations for
improper nodelist flags, then they ought to have a proper coordinator title.

We've got Z1C, R16C, NCs, NECs, RECs, ZECs, and enough coordinators to coordinate the coordinators. The logical next step is obviously NLC: Nodelist
Coordinator.

The contents of the nodelist is the responsability of the *C's. The nodelist police, are like journalists, they only investigate, and report about their findings. Nothing more, nothing less...


Bye, Wilfred.

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On 25.06.2026 21.37, Wilfred van Velzen wrote:

The contents of the nodelist is the responsability of the *C's. The
nodelist police, are like journalists, they only investigate, and report about their findings. Nothing more, nothing less...

So the name "police" is totally wrong. It should be "private eye" :D

'Tommi

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Re: Re: Net124
By: Wilfred van Velzen to Nil Alexandrov on Thu Jun 25 2026 20:37:45

The contents of the nodelist is the responsability of the *C's. The nodelist police, are like journalists, they only investigate, and report about their findings. Nothing more, nothing less...

Like those wannabe cops that add lights to their cars and go around flashing fake badges? :)
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Hi Tommi,

On 2026-06-26 09:54:50, you wrote to me:

The contents of the nodelist is the responsability of the *C's. The
nodelist police, are like journalists, they only investigate, and
report about their findings. Nothing more, nothing less...

So the name "police" is totally wrong. It should be "private eye" :D

That doesn't sound right either. ;-)

Anyway "we" didn't come up with that name. I did a bit of searching and the first mention I could find was:

= FN_SYSOP (2:280/464) ========================================================
From : Roy Witt 1:387/22 2014-02-11 13:20:06
To : All Y'all
Subj : Nodelist Police! =============================================================================== @MSGID: 1:387/22 52fa77f8
@REPLY: 2:280/464 52fa4910
@CHRS: CP437 2

Brer Wilfred van Velzen wrote to Brer Rudi Timmermans about Re:
AfterShock:

SEEN-BY: 154/10 203/0 240/12 1120 1351 5832 8001 244/1120 249/303

244/1120 doesn't exist in the nodelist!

So now we've come full circle. Instead of Spelling Police and Grammar
Police, we now have Nodelist Police.


R\%/itt - K5RXT

"It is the fault of our science that it wants to explain all, and
if it explain not, then it says there is nothing to explain."
Bram Stoker (1847-1912)

Thus, we have "Climate Change Science" - which isn't capable of
explaining anything.


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Later in 2019 I see Nick Andre use it a couple of times in several areas. This area wasn't created until 2020...


Bye, Wilfred.

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Hi Nigel,

On 2026-06-25 15:50:52, you wrote to me:

The contents of the nodelist is the responsability of the *C's. The
nodelist police, are like journalists, they only investigate, and
report about their findings. Nothing more, nothing less...

Like those wannabe cops that add lights to their cars and go around flashing
fake badges? :)

No "we" never order anyone to do anything, or pretend to be some kind of authority... ;-)


Bye, Wilfred.

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