I'm in the airport at a lounge, drinking tepid coffee. My company has a 3-day conference in Vegas, and I'm looking forward to a change in scenery.

First, I wanted to check messages on the BBS. I copied my SyncTerm and Multimail directories to my work laptop - so far so good. Didn't bring my editor install. That's OK, I can install it from the web. Crowdstrike would beg to differ - as it's wont to do. I logged into the console and whitelisted it, but apparently you can't force a policy update. I tried rebooting, but to no avail.

I have the new Microsoft Edit - it's interesting. Not sure how it'll handle word wrapping in a packet.


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Re: Dateline: Vegas!
By: poindexter FORTRAN to All on Mon Feb 02 2026 03:31 pm

I have the new Microsoft Edit - it's interesting. Not sure how it'll handle word wrapping in a packet.

I've seen their new Edit, and it looks interesting. I've heard it will be included by default in Windows 11 now too.

It looks like it's available for Linux as well.. Microsoft has a GitHub page for it, with downloads:

https://github.com/microsoft/edit

There's also a page with Snap packages for Edit, for Linux distributions & setups that use Snap:

https://snapcraft.io/msedit

I have both the new Microsoft Edit and SemWare's QEdit (which is now freeware), though I haven't used either of them very much (yet). It's interesting to see a couple of old favorite DOS-based editors still alive.

Nightfox
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Hey Poindexter!

On Mon, Feb 02 2026 17:31:32 -0600, you wrote:

I'm in the airport at a lounge, drinking tepid coffee. My company
has a 3-day conference in Vegas, and I'm looking forward to a change
in scenery.

First, I wanted to check messages on the BBS. I copied my SyncTerm
and Multimail directories to my work laptop - so far so good. Didn't
bring my editor install. That's OK, I can install it from the web. Crowdstrike would beg to differ - as it's wont to do. I logged into
the console and whitelisted it, but apparently you can't force a
policy update. I tried rebooting, but to no avail.

I have the new Microsoft Edit - it's interesting. Not sure how it'll
handle word wrapping in a packet.

Looks good from this angle. I think MultiMail handles your word wrapping, though, so it probably doesn't matter what editor you use. From my limited use of MultiMail with nano as my editor (using the entire 160 character wide terminal), when posted into MultiMail it has always displayed 80 columns wide.

If there was any settings in MultiMail to change that, I didn't see them.

Regards,
Nick

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Re: Dateline: Vegas!
By: Nightfox to poindexter FORTRAN on Mon Feb 02 2026 16:45:36

I have both the new Microsoft Edit and SemWare's QEdit...

Is this the same thing as their TSE?
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I have the new Microsoft Edit - it's interesting. Not sure how it'll handle word wrapping in a packet.

Apparently it handled it. ;)
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Re: Dateline: Vegas!
By: Mortar M. to Nightfox on Tue Feb 03 2026 01:43 pm

I have both the new Microsoft Edit and SemWare's QEdit...

Is this the same thing as their TSE?

Ah, yes, as far as I know, it is.

Nightfox
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I have both the new Microsoft Edit and SemWare's QEdit (which is now freeware), though I haven't used either of them very much (yet). It's interesting to see a couple of old favorite DOS-based editors still
alive.

Do you guys know of a replacement for the original MS-DOS 6.22 edit.com editor? Something that would run in DOS-Box and not native x64 Windows.
Thank you guys.

Pol Malvinas.

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Re: Re: Dateline: Vegas! (DOS .txt editor)
By: Malvinas to Nightfox on Wed Feb 04 2026 02:34 pm

I have both the new Microsoft Edit and SemWare's QEdit (which is now

Do you guys know of a replacement for the original MS-DOS 6.22 edit.com editor? Something that would run in DOS-Box and not native x64 Windows. Thank you guys.

Are you looking for an exact replacement that has the same features and behaves the same way, or just an alternative text editor? If you want an alternative editor, SemWare's QEdit was around in the DOS days and there was a DOS version of that, so that's an option. I used to use it, and I think it's pretty good.

Nightfox
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Do you guys know of a replacement for the original MS-DOS 6.22 edit.com editor? Something that would run in DOS-Box and not native x64 Windows. Thank you guys.

I still use EDIT.COM .... it's only 3 files from Win95 or Win98 EDIT.COM, EDIT.HLP and EDIT.INI. Copy those to your path and enjoy EDIT.COM. I used it to code Renegade and to make the Renegade Web page.

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Nightfox wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

I've seen their new Edit, and it looks interesting. I've heard it will
be included by default in Windows 11 now too.

I was expecting Wordstar key bindings, didn't realize you could just
highlight with the mouse...


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Mortar M. wrote to Nightfox <=-

Is this the same thing as their TSE?

Yes, more or less. Qedit begat The SemWare Editor for DOS, which became TSE for DOS/Windows.

I was trying to find a copy of QEDIT online to download for my on-the-road editing, forgot they had a DOS TSR version, when terminate-and-stay-resident programs were all the rage. Borland Sidekick was the one to beat - lots of add-ons that come in handy when you're running a single-tasking OS.

(aside: I ended up with a copy of VDE for DOS - configurable, uses the Wordstar key bindings by default, and I had it in my util directory. I used to use it for creating tfiles that I wanted to have justified paragraphs.


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Hey Exodus!

On Wed, Feb 04 2026 09:57:50 -0600, you wrote:

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Look at that fancy shit! :D

Regards,
Nick

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Look at that fancy shit! :D

hahahah ... Yeah, new release here sometime this year. I added a lightbar setup for the message reading, and I am just finishing up the light bar setup for the file listings. Figured after 23 years it's about time. :)

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Re: Re: Dateline: Vegas! (DOS .txt editor)
By: Malvinas to Nightfox on Wed Feb 04 2026 02:34 pm

Do you guys know of a replacement for the original MS-DOS 6.22 edit.com editor? Something that would run in DOS-Box and not native x64 Windows. Than you guys.

Any DOS editor would run in DOSBOX and give you a better experience than edit.exe.
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On Wednesday, February 4th Nightfox was heard saying...

Are you looking for an exact replacement that has the same features and behaves the same way, or just an alternative text editor? If you want an alternative editor, SemWare's QEdit was around in the DOS days and there was a DOS version of that, so that's an option. I used to use it, and I think it's pretty good.

I'm looking for a text editor that would open .txt files in DOS and let me work with the content and then save it in the legacy "DOSey" format.
I'll look for and try QEdit as you suggested. Thank you!!

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Re: Re: Dateline: Vegas!
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Mortar M. on Wed Feb 04 2026 15:13:37

Borland Sidekick was the one to beat...

Great utility. I recommended it to my department head when it first came out. The price was right, so he allowed it. Ended up being the favorite PC tool of the department. Next thing I know, I'm the unofficial software wrangler.
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Re: Re: Dateline: Vegas! (DOS .txt editor)
By: Malvinas to Nightfox on Thu Feb 05 2026 10:36:20

I'm looking for a text editor that would open .txt files in DOS and let me work with the content and then save it in the legacy "DOSey" format.

"DOSey format"? No such thing. A .TXT file is a .TXT file.
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Hey Exodus!

On Wed, Feb 04 2026 16:57:39 -0600, you wrote:

hahahah ... Yeah, new release here sometime this year. I added a
lightbar setup for the message reading, and I am just finishing up
the light bar setup for the file listings. Figured after 23 years
it's about time. :)

Are you now catering to the people that are too lazy to make mods themselves? If that's the case, some of us could start a pretty long list for you, if you're interested! :D

Regards,
Nick

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Are you now catering to the people that are too lazy to make mods themselve If that's the case, some of us could start a pretty long list for you, if you're interested! :D

I figure no one else (besides a few) helped over 20 years, so I might as well. I also made a bunch of utils as well a few weeks ago I threw on the website. Check those out before you start throwing suggestions. <G>

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Do you guys know of a replacement for the original MS-DOS 6.22 edit.com editor? Something that would run in DOS-Box and not native x64 Windows. Thank you guys.

http://www.malsmith.net/edit/

Yedit is the closest I've found for Windows console if that's what you mean. If you're interested in an editor for actual DOS, I can easily grab edit.* from DOS 7 and transfer it to you. I have a box of Windows 95 COAs in storage so it wouldn't even be illegal.

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"DOSey format"? No such thing. A .TXT file is a .TXT file.

Nope. Going back to the days of teletype machines there are two ASCII symbols associated with the end of a line, Carriage Return (ASCII 13) and Line Feed(ASCII 10). One made the print head return to the start of a line and the other made the paper advance by a line.

Originally you needed both or you'd end up starting the next line in wrong place and either typing over your last line or running off the end of the page.

Nowadays DOS/Windows computers still expect a CR/LF at the end of every line, while Unixy OSes like Mac and Linux expect just a LF, but old classic Macs used just a CR.

And then there's also Unicode txt files, where some characters are 2 bytes wide.

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Mortar M. wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

Next thing I know, I'm the unofficial software wrangler.

I worked at a software company in the '90s - think "Flying Toasters"
screen savers. Our QA lab manager was in a community of QA lab managers
who traded software with each other - we had a library of software that
we'd traded copies of our software for licenses of their software.

You'd go see him first before you reached out to IT for software...


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Hey Exodus!

On Thu, Feb 05 2026 16:49:14 -0600, you wrote:

I figure no one else (besides a few) helped over 20 years, so I
might as well. I also made a bunch of utils as well a few weeks ago
I threw on the website. Check those out before you start throwing suggestions. <G>

I was completely joking. I've already proved to you I can still mod Renegade. I wouldn't need you to do it for me. :)

Regards,
Nick

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I was completely joking. I've already proved to you I can still mod Renegad I wouldn't need you to do it for me. :)

Oh I know you were ... I figured I'd just give some back. <G>

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On Thursday,February 05, 2026 at 01:52 PM, Mortar M. (21:2/101) wrote:

Re: Re: Dateline: Vegas! (DOS .txt editor)
By: Malvinas to Nightfox on Thu Feb 05 2026 10:36:20

I'm looking for a text editor that would open .txt files in DOS and
let me
work with the content and then save it in the legacy "DOSey" format.

"DOSey format"? No such thing. A .TXT file is a .TXT file.

DOS Text files : line endings = CR/LF (\r\n) ; EOF marker = CTRL-Z
UNIX/Linux Text files : line endings = LF (\n)

Depending on the software used to edit/read/write the text file, this could make a difference in behavior.



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On 05 Feb 2026, Mortar M. said the following...

"DOSey format"? No such thing. A .TXT file is a .TXT file.
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As others have stated, I need to process ASCII content saved in .txt files, within DOS-Box, and if I bring in the .txt files saved with Windows notepad, the "behaviour" changes drastically... I need something I can work with right within DOS-Box and not have to drown in the UNICODEvsASCII .txt save format nightmare that is a x64 privative OS.

Pol Malvinas.

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