My PC motherboard is an Asus M2N-MX SE PLUS, which has on-board
Ethernet and audio.
During installation, a bit after putting in the product key, it does/attempts LAN install and sits there forever.

This is is an ideal time to use the Asus CD utility driver; which is impossible to access s nod above.

Now do not ask how in the hell i got a working Win7; older versions
of Windows gave options.

Do i have to install WinXP first, then the drivers (LAN,audio), then
Win7 over WinXP ("upgrade" to Win7)?

Thanks.

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Robert Baer wrote:

My PC motherboard is an Asus M2N-MX SE PLUS, which has on-board
Ethernet and audio.
During installation, a bit after putting in the product key, it does/attempts LAN install and sits there forever.

This is is an ideal time to use the Asus CD utility driver; which is impossible to access s nod above.

Now do not ask how in the hell i got a working Win7; older versions of Windows gave options.

Do i have to install WinXP first, then the drivers (LAN,audio), then
Win7 over WinXP ("upgrade" to Win7)?

Thanks.

The thing you want is called "Slipstreaming".

It allows adding Service Packs or hardware drivers
to be added to the DVD image. The hardware drivers
had to be "txtsetup.oem and INF file" type installers.
EXE or ZIP driver installers were not accepted by
the slipstreaming methods.

I'm not convinced of your "diagnosis".

There's also a "Load Driver" button in the Custom Install
section, but perhaps you're unable to get that far.
Again, a txtsetup.oem with INF file, is the most likely
format to work.

*******

I don't understand what this means.

"it does/attempts LAN install"

Why does it do that ? Is it validating the license key ?

What if you click "skip" or "I don't have a key" instead ?

Plugging in keys should be done as late in the install
cycle as possible. If you're happy with the install
results, cement the job by activating. If you're not happy
with the install, don't offer a key, erase the install.
For example, at the moment, you're not happy.

*******

I wonder, is this an Upgrade disc versus a Retail disc ? <===

Do you need a "qualifying OS" to install using that disc ?
Maybe you need a different disc media for the job.

I think my Win2K was an Upgrade disc. I would install Win98
first, then install Win2K over top, and it was happy.
Generally, the previous OS was the qualifying one.
For a Windows 7 Upgrade disc, Vista would have to be
on the machine, *or* you would type in a Vista key
as proof Vista used to be on there. Something like that.
The SKU has to match - a Win7 Pro x64 Upgrade would install
over top of a Vista Pro x64 OS say.

Paul
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Paul wrote:

Robert Baer wrote:

  My PC motherboard is an Asus M2N-MX SE PLUS, which has on-board
Ethernet and audio.
  During installation, a bit after putting in the product key, it
does/attempts LAN install and sits there forever.

  This is is an ideal time to use the Asus CD utility driver; which is
impossible to access s nod above.

  Now do not ask how in the hell i got a working Win7; older versions
of Windows gave options.

  Do i have to install WinXP first, then the drivers (LAN,audio), then
Win7 over WinXP ("upgrade" to Win7)?

  Thanks.

The thing you want is called "Slipstreaming".

It allows adding Service Packs or hardware drivers
to be added to the DVD image. The hardware drivers
had to be "txtsetup.oem and INF file" type installers.
EXE or ZIP driver installers were not accepted by
the slipstreaming methods.

* The ASUS drives are nominally installed by running EXE programs on
their CD; that is all there is available.

I'm not convinced of your "diagnosis".

There's also a "Load Driver" button in the Custom Install
section, but perhaps you're unable to get that far.

* Never seen even a hint of that, but will try again.

Again, a txtsetup.oem with INF file, is the most likely
format to work.

* Like i said above, ayent gno sech tinggie.

*******

I don't understand what this means.

"it does/attempts LAN install"

Why does it do that ? Is it validating the license key ?

* Maybe, because that is the next item after enetring the key.

What if you click "skip" or "I don't have a key" instead ?

* Nasty idea worth trying; at least would not need non-existant files
(oem, inf).

Plugging in keys should be done as late in the install
cycle as possible. If you're happy with the install
results, cement the job by activating. If you're not happy
with the install, don't offer a key, erase the install.
For example, at the moment, you're not happy.

*******

I wonder, is this an Upgrade disc versus a Retail disc ?    <===

* This is a genuine OEM Windoze CD set (32 and 64 bits).

Do you need a "qualifying OS" to install using that disc ?

* Nope, it boots and immediately starts he install zero options like
Win2K or WinXP allows.
Also do not see the long list of drivers those show first.

Maybe you need a different disc media for the job.

I think my Win2K was an Upgrade disc. I would install Win98
first, then install Win2K over top, and it was happy.
Generally, the previous OS was the qualifying one.
For a Windows 7 Upgrade disc, Vista would have to be
on the machine, *or* you would type in a Vista key
as proof Vista used to be on there. Something like that.
The SKU has to match - a Win7 Pro x64 Upgrade would install
over top of a Vista Pro x64 OS say.

   Paul

Thanks.
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Robert Baer wrote:

I wonder, is this an Upgrade disc versus a Retail disc ? <===

* This is a genuine OEM Windoze CD set (32 and 64 bits).

Did this come in a baggie and you paid $50 on kijiji for it ? :-/

I don't have any "Windoze CD set" here. Text string
does not trigger any neurons.

I have a backup generated by using a tool on my laptop,
intended for factory reinstall, but that's not an "installer".
That would be similar to a PowerQuest backup image of
some sort, 12-15GB in size and stored on my own DVD blanks.
The royalty OEM OS in that setup is licensed via SLIC
so no key gets typed in at any time.

*******

If you

1) Rip the CD, the first one in the set.
2) Compute MD5 or SHA checksum.
3) Run resulting string of digits through Google

what web page is the result ? Where do you get hits ?
What does the documentation indicate as a source of the
discs in question ?

If you don't know the parentage of your disc materials,
it's a place to start.

Does the disc set have Holograms and MSFT logo ?
Does it say Dell or HP or Acer or Fujitsu or Lenovo ?

Paul
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Paul wrote:

Robert Baer wrote:

I wonder, is this an Upgrade disc versus a Retail disc ?    <===

* This is a genuine OEM Windoze CD set (32 and 64 bits).

Did this come in a baggie and you paid $50 on kijiji for it ? :-/

* See scanner images at http://www.oil4lessllc.org/Win7/
Too long ago when i bought Win7, do not remember where or how.
Obviously put the CD/DVDs in my own carrier. No dates or indication
that way on labels.
Only used the 32-bit CD/DVD, immediately boots no fuss at anytime
during install EXCEPT the damn network junk.

I don't have any "Windoze CD set" here. Text string
does not trigger any neurons.

I have a backup generated by using a tool on my laptop,
intended for factory reinstall, but that's not an "installer".
That would be similar to a PowerQuest backup image of
some sort, 12-15GB in size and stored on my own DVD blanks.
The royalty OEM OS in that setup is licensed via SLIC
so no key gets typed in at any time.

*******

If you

* no time to do this now; later

1) Rip the CD, the first one in the set.
2) Compute MD5 or SHA checksum.
3) Run resulting string of digits through Google

what web page is the result ? Where do you get hits ?
What does the documentation indicate as a source of the
discs in question ?

If you don't know the parentage of your disc materials,
it's a place to start.

Does the disc set have Holograms and MSFT logo ?
Does it say Dell or HP or Acer or Fujitsu or Lenovo ?

   Paul

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Robert Baer wrote:

Paul wrote:

Robert Baer wrote:

  My PC motherboard is an Asus M2N-MX SE PLUS, which has on-board
Ethernet and audio.
  During installation, a bit after putting in the product key, it
does/attempts LAN install and sits there forever.

  This is is an ideal time to use the Asus CD utility driver; which
is impossible to access s nod above.

  Now do not ask how in the hell i got a working Win7; older versions
of Windows gave options.

  Do i have to install WinXP first, then the drivers (LAN,audio),
then Win7 over WinXP ("upgrade" to Win7)?

  Thanks.

The thing you want is called "Slipstreaming".

It allows adding Service Packs or hardware drivers
to be added to the DVD image. The hardware drivers
had to be "txtsetup.oem and INF file" type installers.
EXE or ZIP driver installers were not accepted by
the slipstreaming methods.

* The ASUS drives are nominally installed by running EXE programs on
their CD; that is all there is available.

I'm not convinced of your "diagnosis".

There's also a "Load Driver" button in the Custom Install
section, but perhaps you're unable to get that far.

* Never seen even a hint of that, but will try again.

Again, a txtsetup.oem with INF file, is the most likely
format to work.

* Like i said above, ayent gno sech tinggie.

*******

I don't understand what this means.

"it does/attempts LAN install"

Why does it do that ? Is it validating the license key ?

* Maybe, because that is the next item after enetring the key.

What if you click "skip" or "I don't have a key" instead ?

* Nasty idea worth trying; at least  would not need non-existant files (oem, inf).

** No help; install procedure progresses in same manner.
Will install XP instead, "over" Win7 if possible, else wipe HD and
restart.

Plugging in keys should be done as late in the install
cycle as possible. If you're happy with the install
results, cement the job by activating. If you're not happy
with the install, don't offer a key, erase the install.
For example, at the moment, you're not happy.

*******

I wonder, is this an Upgrade disc versus a Retail disc ?    <===

* This is a genuine OEM Windoze CD set (32 and 64 bits).

Do you need a "qualifying OS" to install using that disc ?

* Nope, it boots and immediately starts he install zero options like
Win2K or WinXP allows.
  Also do not see the long list of drivers those show first.

Maybe you need a different disc media for the job.

I think my Win2K was an Upgrade disc. I would install Win98
first, then install Win2K over top, and it was happy.
Generally, the previous OS was the qualifying one.
For a Windows 7 Upgrade disc, Vista would have to be
on the machine, *or* you would type in a Vista key
as proof Vista used to be on there. Something like that.
The SKU has to match - a Win7 Pro x64 Upgrade would install
over top of a Vista Pro x64 OS say.

    Paul

  Thanks.

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Robert Baer wrote:

Paul wrote:

Robert Baer wrote:

I wonder, is this an Upgrade disc versus a Retail disc ? <===

* This is a genuine OEM Windoze CD set (32 and 64 bits).

Did this come in a baggie and you paid $50 on kijiji for it ? :-/

* See scanner images at http://www.oil4lessllc.org/Win7/

That's probably a retail Windows 7 SP0 (no Service Pack).

(Please remove the images at your earliest convenience.
We'll talk later, after you confirm this.)

Paul
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Paul wrote:

Robert Baer wrote:

Paul wrote:

Robert Baer wrote:

I wonder, is this an Upgrade disc versus a Retail disc ? <===

* This is a genuine OEM Windoze CD set (32 and 64 bits).

Did this come in a baggie and you paid $50 on kijiji for it ? :-/

* See scanner images at http://www.oil4lessllc.org/Win7/

That's probably a retail Windows 7 SP0 (no Service Pack).

(Please remove the images at your earliest convenience.
We'll talk later, after you confirm this.)

Paul

I can't find my second DVD to test with.

My System Builder OEM Win7 SP1 Pro, just starts
installing, with no key prompt at all. Even with network
cable unplugged, it does that.

Paul
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Paul wrote:

Paul wrote:

Robert Baer wrote:

Paul wrote:

Robert Baer wrote:

I wonder, is this an Upgrade disc versus a Retail disc ? <===

* This is a genuine OEM Windoze CD set (32 and 64 bits).

Did this come in a baggie and you paid $50 on kijiji for it ? :-/

* See scanner images at http://www.oil4lessllc.org/Win7/

That's probably a retail Windows 7 SP0 (no Service Pack).

(Please remove the images at your earliest convenience.
We'll talk later, after you confirm this.)

Paul

I can't find my second DVD to test with.

My System Builder OEM Win7 SP1 Pro, just starts
installing, with no key prompt at all. Even with network
cable unplugged, it does that.

Paul

OK, I have a new theory.

X15-29510 is a Win7Pro "Upgrade" disc.

The process goes like this. You need to prove you have
been using Vista, insert the DVD, and provide that proof to the
Windows 7 OS Upgrade installer.

Procedure for Clean Install:

1) Boot Windows 7 Pro Upgrade disc.
2) Start the install.
3) Find the *Vista* sticker on the Dell or Acer or HP machine.
4) When it asks for key, enter the Vista COA key.
5) Install finished, machine does reboots and so on.
6) Now, the *next* key prompt, is looking for the key
that came in the X15-29510 package. The OS activates
and you're running Windows 7 Pro UpgradeOS.

Procedure for InstallOverTop using Vista C: on the machine:

1) Boot Vista computer as normal
2) Insert Windows 7 DVD.
3) Execute setup.exe off the Windows 7 DVD.
4) The Installer will "sniff" the C: drive and
find the vista key in the Registry. No typing
of the key needed (as in (4) in the previous
procedure).
5) Install finished, machine does reboots and so on.
6) Now, the key prompt, is looking for the key
that came in the X15-29510 package. The OS activates
and you're running Windows 7 Pro UpgradeOS.

This is a visual aid, intended to show that the UpgradeOS
wants "proof" you were a Vista user on that machine. It
needs proof you had a key, before it does the copy phase.
After the reboots, the install is finished, *then* you
would enter the Windows 7 key that came in the package.

------ Vista Pro ------- Win7 Pro UpgradeOS ----- "happy user"
^ ^
| |
| |
SLIC activated Enter Win7 key from
or enter Vista COA in package, *after*
COA key the reboots.

HTH,
Paul
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Paul wrote:

Paul wrote:

Robert Baer wrote:

Paul wrote:

Robert Baer wrote:

I wonder, is this an Upgrade disc versus a Retail disc ?    <=== >>>>> * This is a genuine OEM Windoze CD set (32 and 64 bits).

Did this come in a baggie and you paid $50 on kijiji for it ? :-/

* See scanner images at http://www.oil4lessllc.org/Win7/

That's probably a retail Windows 7 SP0 (no Service Pack).

(Please remove the images at your earliest convenience.
 We'll talk later, after you confirm this.)

    Paul

I can't find my second DVD to test with.

My System Builder OEM Win7 SP1 Pro, just starts
installing, with no key prompt at all. Even with network
cable unplugged, it does that.

   Paul

Am not surprised; consistent..
Got the SP1 disk from M$ (only) over net.
Original (SP0?) had update scheme which "installed SP1" but that failed.
Later, after a fair number of updates,they tried SP1 and that worked.
The folder is now gone.

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Paul wrote:

Paul wrote:

Paul wrote:

Robert Baer wrote:

Paul wrote:

Robert Baer wrote:

I wonder, is this an Upgrade disc versus a Retail disc ?    <=== >>>>>> * This is a genuine OEM Windoze CD set (32 and 64 bits).

Did this come in a baggie and you paid $50 on kijiji for it ? :-/

* See scanner images at http://www.oil4lessllc.org/Win7/

That's probably a retail Windows 7 SP0 (no Service Pack).

(Please remove the images at your earliest convenience.
 We'll talk later, after you confirm this.)

    Paul

I can't find my second DVD to test with.

My System Builder OEM Win7 SP1 Pro, just starts
installing, with no key prompt at all. Even with network
cable unplugged, it does that.

   Paul

OK, I have a new theory.

X15-29510 is a Win7Pro "Upgrade" disc.

* and the product key sez X12-22652 in tiny print.
** nobody sed "upgrade"..

The process goes like this. You need to prove you have
been using Vista, insert the DVD, and provide that proof to the
Windows 7 OS Upgrade installer.

* I have never used Vista; did not even think of using it.

*****WOAH! Ain't gonna buy an obsolete OS just to (maybe) bypass network funnybusiness.

The network funnybusiness is due to fact that the MB software needs
to be installed and Win7 is giving no elbow room.

I just thought that a new "clean" install would make computer run faster.

Besides, am too busy trying to pack my junk for move; will live with
what i have.

Maybe it will work with a newer computer like one of those you
discussed a ways back.
Hopefully i can find those postings in this NG.

Procedure for Clean Install:

1) Boot Windows 7 Pro Upgrade disc.
2) Start the install.
3) Find the *Vista* sticker on the Dell or Acer or HP machine.
4) When it asks for key, enter the Vista COA key.
5) Install finished, machine does reboots and so on.
6) Now, the *next* key prompt, is looking for the key
   that came in the X15-29510 package. The OS activates
   and you're running Windows 7 Pro UpgradeOS.

Procedure for InstallOverTop using Vista C: on the machine:

1) Boot Vista computer as normal
2) Insert Windows 7 DVD.
3) Execute setup.exe off the Windows 7 DVD.
4) The Installer will "sniff" the C: drive and
   find the vista key in the Registry. No typing
   of the key needed (as in (4) in the previous
   procedure).
5) Install finished, machine does reboots and so on.
6) Now, the key prompt, is looking for the key
   that came in the X15-29510 package. The OS activates
   and you're running Windows 7 Pro UpgradeOS.

This is a visual aid, intended to show that the UpgradeOS
wants "proof" you were a Vista user on that machine. It
needs proof you had a key, before it does the copy phase.
After the reboots, the install is finished, *then* you
would enter the Windows 7 key that came in the package.

        ------ Vista Pro ------- Win7 Pro UpgradeOS ----- "happy user"
                  ^                ^
                  |                |
                  |                |
               SLIC activated    Enter Win7 key from
               or enter Vista    COA in package, *after*
               COA key           the reboots.

HTH,
    Paul

See response above.
Thanks.
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