• Win10 l...

    From Robert Baer@robertbaer@localnet.com to alt.computer on Mon Nov 15 12:52:41 2021
    Any way to get Win10 look and act like XP or Win7?
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  • From Paul@nospam@needed.invalid to alt.computer on Mon Nov 15 16:42:42 2021
    On 11/15/2021 3:52 PM, Robert Baer wrote:
    Any way to get Win10 look and act like XP or Win7?

    Yes.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classic_Shell [was classicshell.net when supported]

    https://github.com/Open-Shell/Open-Shell-Menu

    This one (Start10) costs five bucks.

    http://geekinspector.com/718/news/stardock-brings-windows-7-start-menu-to-windows-10-with-start10

    There are probably others. Haven't found a good
    summary article quite yet.

    https://www.startisback.com/

    Paul
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  • From Robert Baer@robertbaer@localnet.com to alt.computer on Wed Nov 17 03:02:00 2021
    Paul wrote:
    On 11/15/2021 3:52 PM, Robert Baer wrote:
    Any way to get Win10 look and act like XP or Win7?

    Yes.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classic_Shell      [was classicshell.net when supported]

    https://github.com/Open-Shell/Open-Shell-Menu

    This one (Start10) costs five bucks.

    http://geekinspector.com/718/news/stardock-brings-windows-7-start-menu-to-windows-10-with-start10


    There are probably others. Haven't found a good
    summary article quite yet.

    https://www.startisback.com/

       Paul
    Thanks.

    Would be nice to have icons on desktop of installed programs (oops "apps").
    How in the hell do the M$ idiots expect anyone to launch (say) Excel
    from scratch?
    And what about the image a particular desktop shortcut displays?
    On a few occasions, it would be nice to make your own.
    Also very nice to have ONE non-hidden, knowable archive.
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  • From Paul@nospam@needed.invalid to alt.computer on Wed Nov 17 10:23:42 2021
    On 11/17/2021 6:02 AM, Robert Baer wrote:
    Paul wrote:
    On 11/15/2021 3:52 PM, Robert Baer wrote:
    Any way to get Win10 look and act like XP or Win7?

    Yes.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classic_Shell      [was classicshell.net when supported]

    https://github.com/Open-Shell/Open-Shell-Menu

    This one (Start10) costs five bucks.

    http://geekinspector.com/718/news/stardock-brings-windows-7-start-menu-to-windows-10-with-start10

    There are probably others. Haven't found a good
    summary article quite yet.

    https://www.startisback.com/

        Paul
       Thanks.

       Would be nice to have icons on desktop of installed programs (oops "apps").
      How in the hell do the M$ idiots expect anyone to launch (say) Excel from scratch?
      And what about the image a particular desktop shortcut displays?
      On a few occasions, it would be nice to make your own.
      Also very nice to have ONE non-hidden, knowable archive.

    Win32 executables ("programs") work as they always have in WIn10.

    Apps on the other hand, don't integrate into the environment
    at all, in any meaningful way. They're pathetic.

    The EXE for an App, is EXE only in name. The code segment
    has a short length. Double-clicking the EXE causes the screen
    to flash, when a shell starts and instantly closes. The EXE
    is really a container for a manifest (some text at the end of
    the file), and is not meant to be launched like that. The loader
    is too stupid to acknowledge you tried to start an App. It would
    have been a natural thing, for the EXE to have launched the App,
    but nooo...

    In Start:Run, try

    # The Phone App ?

    explorer.exe shell:AppsFolder\Microsoft.YourPhone_8wekyb3d8bbwe!App

    # Settings panel maybe ?

    explorer.exe shell:appsFolder\windows.immersivecontrolpanel_cw5n1h2txyewy!microsoft.windows.immersivecontrolpanel

    # Dogs breakfast, not everything in the display is an App
    # You cannot edit shortcuts to these either. The shortcut
    # is grayed out.

    explorer.exe shell:appsFolder

    In any case, that last item is about as close as you'll get,
    to an iconic view of any sort. The integration is terrible really.
    An abomination.

    I didn't test all of those. Try them out for yourself
    and see if you can get one of those to work.

    Paul
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