• "compatibility" in Win7 and/or Win10?

    From Robert Baer@robertbaer@localnet.com to alt.computer on Tue Nov 23 01:11:28 2021
    I have this program that was made for Win95 and never "upgraded" for
    the tape printer it was made for.
    It installs and runs without any special additions whatsoever in all
    OSes from Win95 thru and including XP.

    However, using Administrator mode and compatibility attempts, i get
    the following puzzling error message "There is not enough memory to
    execute that command".

    One of the compatibility mode choices is XP SP3, and i have used the program in XPSP3 for many years without any fuss, special additions whatsoever.

    The only thing i can think of, is the fact that the program uses
    COM1: for communication to the printer.

    For Win7, i use the same physical machine as for XPSP3.
    For Win10 i can only use the Lenovo. No DVD came with it and the DVD
    i got from the vendor after complaint, was a Dell with following text on it: "Operating System" , "Already installed on your computer" , "Use this
    disc only to reinstall the operating system on a Dell computer", "This
    disc is not for reinstallation of programs or drivers".

    I tried to use it to install on a blank HD; nogo.

    So, after this mind-numbing passel of info, do you have any
    suggestions to get it working in Win7?


    Thanks.

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  • From VanguardLH@V@nguard.LH to alt.computer on Tue Nov 23 06:18:47 2021
    Robert Baer <robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote:

    I have this program that was made for Win95 and never "upgraded" for
    the tape printer it was made for.
    It installs and runs without any special additions whatsoever in all
    OSes from Win95 thru and including XP.

    However, using Administrator mode and compatibility attempts, i get
    the following puzzling error message "There is not enough memory to
    execute that command".

    One of the compatibility mode choices is XP SP3, and i have used the program in XPSP3 for many years without any fuss, special additions whatsoever.

    The only thing i can think of, is the fact that the program uses
    COM1: for communication to the printer.

    For Win7, i use the same physical machine as for XPSP3.
    For Win10 i can only use the Lenovo. No DVD came with it and the DVD
    i got from the vendor after complaint, was a Dell with following text on it: "Operating System" , "Already installed on your computer" , "Use this
    disc only to reinstall the operating system on a Dell computer", "This
    disc is not for reinstallation of programs or drivers".

    I tried to use it to install on a blank HD; nogo.

    So, after this mind-numbing passel of info, do you have any
    suggestions to get it working in Win7?

    Thanks.

    Virtual machine running Windows 9x or XP. You can use VMWare Player or Virtualbox. Both are free.

    However, if what you install for the OS inside a VM was from what you
    upgraded, you cannot use that license. Upgrades, say from Windows XP to
    7, fetter the license. The old license becomes invalid once used to
    upgrade to the next license. You need an OS inside the VM that wasn't
    used as a base to upgrade to a later OS to ensure the old license is not fettered.
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  • From Paul@nospam@needed.invalid to alt.computer on Tue Nov 23 08:06:44 2021
    On 11/23/2021 4:11 AM, Robert Baer wrote:
      I have this program that was made for Win95 and never "upgraded" for the tape printer it was made for.
      It installs and runs without any special additions whatsoever in all OSes from Win95 thru and including XP.

      However, using Administrator mode and compatibility attempts, i get the following puzzling error message "There is not enough memory to execute that command".

      One of the compatibility mode choices is XP SP3, and i have used the program in XPSP3 for many years without any fuss, special additions whatsoever.

      The only thing i can think of, is the fact that the program uses COM1: for communication to the printer.

      For Win7, i use the same physical machine as for XPSP3.
      For Win10 i can only use the Lenovo.  No DVD came with it and the DVD i got from the vendor after complaint, was a Dell with following text on it:
    "Operating System" , "Already installed on your computer" , "Use this disc only to reinstall the operating system on a Dell computer", "This disc is not for reinstallation of programs or drivers".

      I tried to use it to install on a blank HD; nogo.

      So, after this mind-numbing passel of info, do you have any suggestions to get it working in Win7?


        Thanks.


    For the Win10 case, run "Winver" and verify the OS install version.

    https://www.thewindowsclub.com/not-enough-memory-resources-are-available-to-process-this-command

    a bug in Windows 10 v1803 == 17134.xxx

    *******

    You don't need Administrator, to work with COM1.
    That's not it. I tested it with MODE commands
    and echo > COM1 commands.

    *******

    If the message was being honestly delivered and at face
    value, it means the 640K area does not have sufficient
    memory to complete the command. This might be a reasonable
    response if booting an older MSDOS diskette or something.

    The executable probably wants at a minimum, Win7 32-bit
    or Win10 32-bit. There are error messages for mis-application
    of OS version. Running 16-bit programs in 64-bit OSes,
    fairly appropriate messages come back as a hint.

    But really, this message is not expected most of the time,
    from 32-bit W7 or W10. It should not happen. Or at least
    Google, like most of the last day or so, simply isn't coughing
    up anything useful. I got the same sort of bland output
    from Bing not that long ago.

    It wouldn't hurt to post the executable name, the folder name,
    which would serve to give some "flavoring" to a Google search.
    Or maybe the label maker, make and model number.
    If the output of a search is bland, it means you just aren't
    pushing the right SEO button to get into that section of
    the archive. Some keyword is missing.

    Windows 10 complained about Programs and Features : Windows Features,
    not having NTVDM enabled. But the notification for that, you
    can't miss it.

    Paul

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  • From JJ@jj4public@gmail.com to alt.computer on Wed Nov 24 14:38:19 2021
    On Tue, 23 Nov 2021 01:11:28 -0800, Robert Baer wrote:
    I have this program that was made for Win95 and never "upgraded" for
    the tape printer it was made for.
    It installs and runs without any special additions whatsoever in all
    OSes from Win95 thru and including XP.

    However, using Administrator mode and compatibility attempts, i get
    the following puzzling error message "There is not enough memory to
    execute that command".

    One of the compatibility mode choices is XP SP3, and i have used the program in XPSP3 for many years without any fuss, special additions whatsoever.

    The only thing i can think of, is the fact that the program uses
    COM1: for communication to the printer.

    For Win7, i use the same physical machine as for XPSP3.
    For Win10 i can only use the Lenovo. No DVD came with it and the DVD
    i got from the vendor after complaint, was a Dell with following text on it: "Operating System" , "Already installed on your computer" , "Use this
    disc only to reinstall the operating system on a Dell computer", "This
    disc is not for reinstallation of programs or drivers".

    I tried to use it to install on a blank HD; nogo.

    So, after this mind-numbing passel of info, do you have any
    suggestions to get it working in Win7?

    Thanks.

    What's the exact title and maker of the software? And what are the steps to reproduce the problem?
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  • From Robert Baer@robertbaer@localnet.com to alt.computer on Thu Nov 25 16:58:13 2021
    Paul wrote:
    On 11/23/2021 4:11 AM, Robert Baer wrote:
       I have this program that was made for Win95 and never "upgraded"
    for the tape printer it was made for.
       It installs and runs without any special additions whatsoever in
    all OSes from Win95 thru and including XP.

       However, using Administrator mode and compatibility attempts, i get
    the following puzzling error message "There is not enough memory to
    execute that command".

       One of the compatibility mode choices is XP SP3, and i have used
    the program in XPSP3 for many years without any fuss, special
    additions whatsoever.

       The only thing i can think of, is the fact that the program uses
    COM1: for communication to the printer.

       For Win7, i use the same physical machine as for XPSP3.
       For Win10 i can only use the Lenovo.  No DVD came with it and the
    DVD i got from the vendor after complaint, was a Dell with following
    text on it:
    "Operating System" , "Already installed on your computer" , "Use this
    disc only to reinstall the operating system on a Dell computer", "This
    disc is not for reinstallation of programs or drivers".

       I tried to use it to install on a blank HD; nogo.

       So, after this mind-numbing passel of info, do you have any
    suggestions to get it working in Win7?


         Thanks.


    For the Win10 case, run "Winver" and verify the OS install version.

    https://www.thewindowsclub.com/not-enough-memory-resources-are-available-to-process-this-command


       a bug in Windows 10 v1803   == 17134.xxx

    *******

    You don't need Administrator, to work with COM1.
    That's not it. I tested it with MODE commands
    and echo > COM1 commands.

    *******

    If the message was being honestly delivered and at face
    value, it means the 640K area does not have sufficient
    memory to complete the command. This might be a reasonable
    response if booting an older MSDOS diskette or something.

    The executable probably wants at a minimum, Win7 32-bit
    or Win10 32-bit. There are error messages for mis-application
    of OS version. Running 16-bit programs in 64-bit OSes,
    fairly appropriate messages come back as a hint.

    But really, this message is not expected most of the time,
    from 32-bit W7 or W10. It should not happen. Or at least
    Google, like most of the last day or so, simply isn't coughing
    up anything useful. I got the same sort of bland output
    from Bing not that long ago.

    It wouldn't hurt to post the executable name, the folder name,
    which would serve to give some "flavoring" to a Google search.
    Or maybe the label maker, make and model number.
    If the output of a search is bland, it means you just aren't
    pushing the right SEO button to get into that section of
    the archive. Some keyword is missing.

    Windows 10 complained about Programs and Features : Windows Features,
    not having NTVDM enabled. But the notification for that, you
    can't miss it.

       Paul

    Program name: EZ-LABEL PRINTER COMPUTER LINK for Windows.
    By Casio, supports my KL-8100 via program set FA-930C. Run splash.exe
    to go. NOT Tharo.

    "Best" reference i could find:
    https://support.casio.com/en/support/information.php?cid=005&pid=27
    Another, not so good reference: https://www.casio.com/products/archive/label-printers/label-printers/kl-8100#support

    Maybe one could find the software online 10 years ago (at best
    time-wise).
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  • From Robert Baer@robertbaer@localnet.com to alt.computer on Thu Nov 25 17:13:41 2021
    JJ wrote:
    On Tue, 23 Nov 2021 01:11:28 -0800, Robert Baer wrote:
    I have this program that was made for Win95 and never "upgraded" for
    the tape printer it was made for.
    It installs and runs without any special additions whatsoever in all
    OSes from Win95 thru and including XP.

    However, using Administrator mode and compatibility attempts, i get
    the following puzzling error message "There is not enough memory to
    execute that command".

    One of the compatibility mode choices is XP SP3, and i have used the
    program in XPSP3 for many years without any fuss, special additions
    whatsoever.

    The only thing i can think of, is the fact that the program uses
    COM1: for communication to the printer.

    For Win7, i use the same physical machine as for XPSP3.
    For Win10 i can only use the Lenovo. No DVD came with it and the DVD
    i got from the vendor after complaint, was a Dell with following text on it: >> "Operating System" , "Already installed on your computer" , "Use this
    disc only to reinstall the operating system on a Dell computer", "This
    disc is not for reinstallation of programs or drivers".

    I tried to use it to install on a blank HD; nogo.

    So, after this mind-numbing passel of info, do you have any
    suggestions to get it working in Win7?

    Thanks.

    What's the exact title and maker of the software? And what are the steps to reproduce the problem?

    Install, load any .LYC image, connect computer serial port COM1: 9600
    baud to KL-8100, print.
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  • From Paul@nospam@needed.invalid to alt.computer on Thu Nov 25 21:32:22 2021
    On 11/25/2021 7:58 PM, Robert Baer wrote:
    Paul wrote:
    On 11/23/2021 4:11 AM, Robert Baer wrote:
       I have this program that was made for Win95 and never "upgraded" for the tape printer it was made for.
       It installs and runs without any special additions whatsoever in all OSes from Win95 thru and including XP.

       However, using Administrator mode and compatibility attempts, i get the following puzzling error message "There is not enough memory to execute that command".

       One of the compatibility mode choices is XP SP3, and i have used the program in XPSP3 for many years without any fuss, special additions whatsoever.

       The only thing i can think of, is the fact that the program uses COM1: for communication to the printer.

       For Win7, i use the same physical machine as for XPSP3.
       For Win10 i can only use the Lenovo.  No DVD came with it and the DVD i got from the vendor after complaint, was a Dell with following text on it:
    "Operating System" , "Already installed on your computer" , "Use this disc only to reinstall the operating system on a Dell computer", "This disc is not for reinstallation of programs or drivers".

       I tried to use it to install on a blank HD; nogo.

       So, after this mind-numbing passel of info, do you have any suggestions to get it working in Win7?


         Thanks.


    For the Win10 case, run "Winver" and verify the OS install version.

    https://www.thewindowsclub.com/not-enough-memory-resources-are-available-to-process-this-command

        a bug in Windows 10 v1803   == 17134.xxx

    *******

    You don't need Administrator, to work with COM1.
    That's not it. I tested it with MODE commands
    and echo > COM1 commands.

    *******

    If the message was being honestly delivered and at face
    value, it means the 640K area does not have sufficient
    memory to complete the command. This might be a reasonable
    response if booting an older MSDOS diskette or something.

    The executable probably wants at a minimum, Win7 32-bit
    or Win10 32-bit. There are error messages for mis-application
    of OS version. Running 16-bit programs in 64-bit OSes,
    fairly appropriate messages come back as a hint.

    But really, this message is not expected most of the time,
    from 32-bit W7 or W10. It should not happen. Or at least
    Google, like most of the last day or so, simply isn't coughing
    up anything useful. I got the same sort of bland output
    from Bing not that long ago.

    It wouldn't hurt to post the executable name, the folder name,
    which would serve to give some "flavoring" to a Google search.
    Or maybe the label maker, make and model number.
    If the output of a search is bland, it means you just aren't
    pushing the right SEO button to get into that section of
    the archive. Some keyword is missing.

    Windows 10 complained about Programs and Features : Windows Features,
    not having NTVDM enabled. But the notification for that, you
    can't miss it.

        Paul

      Program name: EZ-LABEL PRINTER COMPUTER LINK for Windows.
      By Casio, supports my KL-8100 via program set FA-930C. Run splash.exe to go.   NOT Tharo.

      "Best" reference i could find:
     https://support.casio.com/en/support/information.php?cid=005&pid=27
      Another, not so good reference: https://www.casio.com/products/archive/label-printers/label-printers/kl-8100#support

      Maybe one could find the software online 10 years ago (at best time-wise).

    You can upload "splash.exe" to virustotal.com and have it scanned.

    One of the tabs in the returned result, is an analysis of the code.
    That is about the only thing I know of, which will come remotely
    close to an analysis. It's a poor tool, and "grasping at straws".

    Programs like file.exe which rely on /etc/magic type files,
    can only report things like "PE32" or "PE32+" and lack the
    ability to tell us more about program composition.

    As for solving the problem, you can install an ancient OS
    in a virtual machine, and use serial port passthru to reach
    the *physical* device. VirtualBox does have some nice features
    that way.

    https://www.howtogeek.com/329301/how-to-install-windows-95-in-a-virtual-machine/

    VirtualBox and other similar tools,
    give access to COM1 and COM2 and so on. It helps if your
    machine has a SuperIO COM port for this purpose. Both my
    primary machines today (one machine only two months old),
    have a primary serial port. But, the user is made to
    grovel, via the fact that the serial port is not on the
    back of the computer, but is a 2x5 pin header. I made an
    adapter for the other computer, by repurposing an adapter
    plate that came with an old computer. But I might not have
    sufficient materials to make another that way. It required
    custom soldering a DB-9 onto the end of the scavenged
    ribbon cable. You can buy those plates online, or at least
    you used to be able to a long time ago.

    In VirtualBox, you can map COM1 to COM1, and then the cable
    coming off the computer, gets its IO from Windows 95 and
    your installed CASIO software. You just start the VM, any time
    you want to make a label.

    The oldest VM I have here is Win98, and I haven't moved it
    to Windows 7 yet from the broken machine. Much of my legacy
    stuff is now broken, now that the machine it was sitting
    on, is trash.

    Paul
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