• Post images on / to Instagram?

    From Robert Baer@robertbaer@localnet.com to alt.computer on Mon Oct 12 23:32:07 2020
    Found on the baby bird (Goo-Gull) presumed instructions that
    mentioned Firefox.
    "How to post to Instagram from any computer - CNET"

    **QUOTE WITH INSERTED COMMENTS IN BRACKETS**
    Open Chrome, visit Instagram.com and sign in to your account.
    Right-click anywhere on the page and then select Inspect (Inspect
    Element in Firefox) from the list of options.
    [[SO FAR, SO GOOD]]
    A window with a random text will show up at the bottom of the page. The
    only thing we care about is the small tablet icon in the top-left corner
    of the Inspector tool. In Firefox, that icon is on the top-right of the inspector tool.
    [[FINALLY FIGURED OUT THE FUNNY "DOUBLE-BOX" ICON, LITTLE
    BOX/RECTANGLE TO LEFT OF LARGER ONE, WAS IT]]

    Click on the icon that looks like an iPad ($275 at Back Market) with an
    iPhone next to it. The Instagram interface should refresh, giving you
    the mobile website, complete with the + button to create a post.
    [[WHAT OE SEES IS A SMALL "WINDOW" AND ONE MUST MOVE THE BAR OF THE
    FIREFOX INSPECTION WINDOW DOWN,AND "STRETCH" THE UPPER WINDOW GREATLY,
    TO SEE ALMOST ALL OF WHATEVER INSTAGRAM CHOOSE TO SHOW.]]
    [[BROWSE AROUND AL YOU WANT..THERE IS *NO* "+" ANYWHERE]]

    If you don't have the post button, refresh the page and it'll show up.
    At least, that's what worked for me.
    [[SORRY CHARLIE, NO TUNA TONIGHT.]]
    [[IN FACT, NEVER SEE ANYTHING SIMILAR TO THE DISPLAYED BOX WITH "ADVANCED"]]

    When you're done posting your photo, click on the tablet icon again and
    close the Inspector tool.
    **END QUOTE**

    [[DOA]]

    So,,,tried another: "How to Post on Instagram: a Step-by-Step Guide"
    Worse than useless;say i am in the middle of running a game - i
    should "1. Tap the + icon at the bottom of your screen."? Or looking at
    stock quotes? or....
    Got news for ou, aint gnott kno "+" in Instagram.
    Was talk about an "app" .. what "app"?

    [[DOA]]

    So,,,tried yet another: "3 Ways to Post Pictures on Instagram from
    Your Computer ..."
    WELL, well and folks, the dirty secret is out.
    Scroll down below "5. Click the "mobile" icon" and just look at the screenshot of the Instagram page.
    Look carefully...a grey circle "person" icon with !!!A PLUS!!!
    Scroll down further and see Instagram screen image showing, in order,
    a house/home icon, a spyglass icon, a PLUS icon, a heart icon,and a
    person icon.

    The dirty secret is..
    THAT PLUS ICON DOES NOT EXIST.

    At least, _somebody_ let the cat out of the bag.

    As an aside, that "mobile" icon does not change color.


    [[DOA]]

    Deader than a door-nail.

    Thanx.

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  • From Paul@nospam@needed.invalid to alt.computer on Tue Oct 13 04:46:12 2020
    Robert Baer wrote:
    Found on the baby bird (Goo-Gull) presumed instructions that mentioned Firefox.
    "How to post to Instagram from any computer - CNET"

    **QUOTE WITH INSERTED COMMENTS IN BRACKETS**
    Open Chrome, visit Instagram.com and sign in to your account.
    Right-click anywhere on the page and then select Inspect (Inspect
    Element in Firefox) from the list of options.
    [[SO FAR, SO GOOD]]
    A window with a random text will show up at the bottom of the page. The
    only thing we care about is the small tablet icon in the top-left corner
    of the Inspector tool. In Firefox, that icon is on the top-right of the inspector tool.
    [[FINALLY FIGURED OUT THE FUNNY "DOUBLE-BOX" ICON, LITTLE
    BOX/RECTANGLE TO LEFT OF LARGER ONE, WAS IT]]

    Click on the icon that looks like an iPad ($275 at Back Market) with an iPhone next to it. The Instagram interface should refresh, giving you
    the mobile website, complete with the + button to create a post.
    [[WHAT OE SEES IS A SMALL "WINDOW" AND ONE MUST MOVE THE BAR OF THE FIREFOX INSPECTION WINDOW DOWN,AND "STRETCH" THE UPPER WINDOW GREATLY,
    TO SEE ALMOST ALL OF WHATEVER INSTAGRAM CHOOSE TO SHOW.]]
    [[BROWSE AROUND AL YOU WANT..THERE IS *NO* "+" ANYWHERE]]

    If you don't have the post button, refresh the page and it'll show up.
    At least, that's what worked for me.
    [[SORRY CHARLIE, NO TUNA TONIGHT.]]
    [[IN FACT, NEVER SEE ANYTHING SIMILAR TO THE DISPLAYED BOX WITH "ADVANCED"]]

    When you're done posting your photo, click on the tablet icon again and close the Inspector tool.
    **END QUOTE**

    [[DOA]]

    So,,,tried another: "How to Post on Instagram: a Step-by-Step Guide"
    Worse than useless;say i am in the middle of running a game - i should
    "1. Tap the + icon at the bottom of your screen."? Or looking at stock quotes? or....
    Got news for ou, aint gnott kno "+" in Instagram.
    Was talk about an "app" .. what "app"?

    [[DOA]]

    So,,,tried yet another: "3 Ways to Post Pictures on Instagram from
    Your Computer ..."
    WELL, well and folks, the dirty secret is out.
    Scroll down below "5. Click the "mobile" icon" and just look at the screenshot of the Instagram page.
    Look carefully...a grey circle "person" icon with !!!A PLUS!!!
    Scroll down further and see Instagram screen image showing, in order,
    a house/home icon, a spyglass icon, a PLUS icon, a heart icon,and a
    person icon.

    The dirty secret is..
    THAT PLUS ICON DOES NOT EXIST.

    At least, _somebody_ let the cat out of the bag.

    As an aside, that "mobile" icon does not change color.


    [[DOA]]

    Deader than a door-nail.

    Thanx.


    Maybe this would work for a picture.
    It seems almost designed to work.

    https://imgbb.com/

    *******

    ChromeEdge has this. ChromeEdge runs on Windows 7SP1,8.1,10.
    There's probably a version of Desktop-For-Instagram for Chrome as well.
    I installed on Win7SP1 for this test.

    Stable 86 - 86.0.622.38 - Windows 64 - Then Download

    https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/edge/business/download

    Name: MicrosoftEdgeEnterpriseX64.msi
    Size: 95,059,968 bytes (90 MiB)
    SHA1: 5576684AC694E1549151FB9CD9F4B4B1173D8384

    This is "Desktop For Instagram", available for Google Chrome or ChromeEdge from Microsoft.
    The following URL is for the latter one.

    https://microsoftedge.microsoft.com/addons/detail/desktop-for-instagram/dflhcpagmpcnfoofjcjipoalbfbfjcji

    Instagram belongs to Facebook as far as I know, so I would not
    expect account-free operation.

    And here is the resulting plugin, ready to accept my (non-existent) credentials.

    The thing on the right is the ChromeEdge icon, plus a list of running extensions.

    https://i.postimg.cc/ZYNfrbWX/Desktop-For-Instagram.gif

    Paul

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  • From VanguardLH@V@nguard.LH to alt.computer on Tue Oct 13 09:18:03 2020
    Robert Baer <robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote:

    "How to post to Instagram from any computer - CNET"
    [[DOA]]

    "How to Post on Instagram: a Step-by-Step Guide"
    [[DOA]]

    "3 Ways to Post Pictures on Instagram from
    [[DOA]]

    Thanx.

    Thanks for what? You didn't ask a question.

    You don't give the URL to the Cnet or other articles. Could be those
    are really old and no longer valid. Information is time sensitive: what
    used to be may not be now.

    The [scripts on a] server can detect which client is connecting to it,
    and maybe it really does expect you to use the Android/iOS app for
    Instagram.

    https://help.instagram.com/488619974671134/

    If you want to run Android apps on your unidentified operating system,
    try Bluestacks (https://www.bluestacks.com/), an Android emulator under
    which you can install and run Android apps.
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  • From Robert Baer@robertbaer@localnet.com to alt.computer on Tue Oct 13 11:54:54 2020
    VanguardLH wrote:
    Robert Baer <robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote:

    "How to post to Instagram from any computer - CNET"
    [[DOA]]

    "How to Post on Instagram: a Step-by-Step Guide"
    [[DOA]]

    "3 Ways to Post Pictures on Instagram from
    [[DOA]]

    Thanx.

    Thanks for what? You didn't ask a question.

    You don't give the URL to the Cnet or other articles.
    * Yes i did:
    "How to post to Instagram from any computer - CNET"
    "How to Post on Instagram: a Step-by-Step Guide"
    "3 Ways to Post Pictures on Instagram from...well, you even plucked
    them from my posting and quoted them.......

    Could be those
    are really old and no longer valid. Information is time sensitive: what
    used to be may not be now.

    The [scripts on a] server can detect which client is connecting to it,
    and maybe it really does expect you to use the Android/iOS app for
    Instagram.
    * BUT all 3 articles Xplicitly SAID for Windoze..


    https://help.instagram.com/488619974671134/
    * Seen that, not useful.


    If you want to run Android apps on your unidentified operating system,
    try Bluestacks (https://www.bluestacks.com/), an Android emulator under
    which you can install and run Android apps.

    Junky..transferred images to my "phone", got the Instagram app, logged
    in, SAW the "+" icon exactly where that screenshot showed, was able to
    upload ONE photo icon. "Multiple" pretended to do something but result
    was nada.

    Better than a kick in the head.
    Maybe try to do another photo later; one at a time...
    Gr more important things to do.


    Thanks
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  • From JJ@jj4public@gmail.com to alt.computer on Wed Oct 14 08:09:19 2020
    On Tue, 13 Oct 2020 11:54:54 -0700, Robert Baer wrote:
    * Yes i did:
    "How to post to Instagram from any computer - CNET"
    "How to Post on Instagram: a Step-by-Step Guide"
    "3 Ways to Post Pictures on Instagram from...well, you even plucked
    them from my posting and quoted them.......

    Try reading your message which is in the news server, not from your own
    "Sent" message.
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  • From VanguardLH@V@nguard.LH to alt.computer on Tue Oct 13 20:57:22 2020
    Robert Baer <robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote:

    VanguardLH wrote:

    Robert Baer <robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote:

    "How to post to Instagram from any computer - CNET"
    [[DOA]]

    "How to Post on Instagram: a Step-by-Step Guide"
    [[DOA]]

    "3 Ways to Post Pictures on Instagram from
    [[DOA]]

    You don't give the URL to the Cnet or other articles.

    Yes i did:
    "How to post to Instagram from any computer - CNET"
    "How to Post on Instagram: a Step-by-Step Guide"
    "3 Ways to Post Pictures on Instagram from
    ...well, you even plucked them from my posting and quoted them.......

    You don't know by now what is a URL? A page's title is not its URL.

    Could be those
    are really old and no longer valid. Information is time sensitive: what
    used to be may not be now.

    The [scripts on a] server can detect which client is connecting to it,
    and maybe it really does expect you to use the Android/iOS app for
    Instagram.

    * BUT all 3 articles Xplicitly SAID for Windoze..

    But *I* said the datestamp could be important. There are tons of old
    articles that became irrelevant after updates or new versions of
    Windows. Any blog, especially those purporting to be news sources,
    should be discarded if they are not datestamped. All information is
    time sensitive.

    https://help.instagram.com/488619974671134/

    Seen that, not useful.

    It was a lead-in to mentioning you should be using their app, not try to
    botch the page's code to use it within a web browser.

    If you want to run Android apps on your unidentified operating
    system, try Bluestacks (https://www.bluestacks.com/), an Android
    emulator under which you can install and run Android apps.

    Junky..transferred images to my "phone", got the Instagram app, logged
    in, SAW the "+" icon exactly where that screenshot showed, was able
    to upload ONE photo icon. "Multiple" pretended to do something but
    result was nada.

    Since the intent of Instagram is a social site where prattling is via
    images and videos, and not as an online file storage provider, I
    wouldn't be surprised they only allow a single upload at a time.

    I don't do needy, er, social sites (Facebook, SnapChat, Instagram,
    WeChat, Tumblr, Twitter, WhatsApp, Pinterest, LinkedIn, or others).
    Might be some other process is needed to upload multiple photos at the
    same time, so I did a Youtube search:

    https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=android%20instagram%20app%20upload%20multiple%20photos

    You might want to sort by Upload Date, so the latest ones show first
    instead of first seeing the most visited videos there which could be
    some too-old ones.
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  • From Paul@nospam@needed.invalid to alt.computer on Tue Oct 13 23:47:00 2020
    Robert Baer wrote:

    Better than a kick in the head.
    Maybe try to do another photo later; one at a time...
    Gr more important things to do.

    I'm trying to figure out right now, what
    attracted you about Instagram.

    https://www.jou.ufl.edu/insights/why-people-use-instagram-and-what-brands-can-learn/

    "Earlier studies identified 18 to 23-year-olds as the core of Instagram users"

    Those are my people.

    You can see in the text of that article, that a lot of
    sheep shearing is involved.

    "For marketers, a significant implication is that communication via Instagram
    'should make consumers feel good about themselves.' Enhancing a consumers'
    self-image and giving them a sense of being in an exclusive or
    privileged group is important."

    Ah! The plastic people.

    Paul
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  • From VanguardLH@V@nguard.LH to alt.computer on Wed Oct 14 02:19:38 2020
    Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

    Robert Baer wrote:

    Better than a kick in the head.
    Maybe try to do another photo later; one at a time...
    Gr more important things to do.

    I'm trying to figure out right now, what
    attracted you about Instagram.

    https://www.jou.ufl.edu/insights/why-people-use-instagram-and-what-brands-can-learn/

    "Earlier studies identified 18 to 23-year-olds as the core of Instagram users"

    Those are my people.

    You can see in the text of that article, that a lot of
    sheep shearing is involved.

    "For marketers, a significant implication is that communication via Instagram
    'should make consumers feel good about themselves.' Enhancing a consumers'
    self-image and giving them a sense of being in an exclusive or
    privileged group is important."

    Ah! The plastic people.

    Paul

    Instagram also expires links to photos, and then assigns new links
    (URLs) to the photos. This is to prevent hotlinking, but it also means
    anyone posting URLs in their blogs, or elsewhere, will lose all those
    photos until they figure out what are the new URLs.

    There used to be an API to let users update the URLs to their Instagram
    photos, like someone having a blog full of Instagram-hosted photos or
    web sites linking to Instagram photos. The API was close April 2018, so
    now anyone linking to Instagram photos will eventually lose those links.

    It's another facet of Instagram. It is for sharing photos, but not for providing permanent URLs to them. The photos don't go away. It's URLs
    (links) to them that expire and new ones are created for the photos.

    Their Data Policy is an, um, "interesting" read. See it at:

    https://help.instagram.com/519522125107875?helpref=page_content

    If they suspect you of violating their TOS (whether you agree with their decision or not), they can ban your account from 24-48 hours. They can,
    at their discretion, terminate your account. Besides having to figure
    out what are the new URLs to link to your photos when sharing them or referencing them elsewhere (e.g., your blog or web site), you could lose
    years of photos and videos without any means of recovering them *if* you thought Instagram was a cloud file storage service, and didn't keep
    copies on your own storage or at a real cloud file storage service.

    For marketers using Instagram as yet another venue to spew their
    content, and because Instagram users are mostly millennials which short attention spans and constantly hungry for new content, content creators
    (aka marketers) have to constantly product new content to feed the
    Instagram community who get easily bored without frequent stimulation.

    You can "follow" a max of 7500 other Instagram users. Follows are so
    tenuous in the first place because of the entire concept of, gee,
    someone strokes your ego by following you, but these same flaky users
    have to unfollow to allow to them spuriously follow some other users. "Unfollows" are common and often. Because of the flaky community, if
    they disagree with any of your content then they unfollow. Think what
    would happen to your real and physical friends if they were no longer
    your friends because of one tiny comment you made to which they did not
    fully agree. Because of the pervasive density of flaky users at
    Instagram, it is a social venue rife with nasty rumor mills.

    Users waste gobs of time at Instagram scrolling through their feed and
    Explore section. You see all those boobs at the airport wasting their
    time playing Candy Crush and addicted to Instagram.
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  • From Robert Baer@robertbaer@localnet.com to alt.computer on Wed Oct 14 21:26:57 2020
    Paul wrote:
    Robert Baer wrote:

      Better than a kick in the head.
      Maybe try to do another photo later; one at a time...
      Gr more important things to do.

    I'm trying to figure out right now, what
    attracted you about Instagram.

    https://www.jou.ufl.edu/insights/why-people-use-instagram-and-what-brands-can-learn/


       "Earlier studies identified 18 to 23-year-olds as the core of Instagram users"

    Those are my people.

    You can see in the text of that article, that a lot of
    sheep shearing is involved.

       "For marketers, a significant implication is that communication via Instagram
        'should make consumers feel good about themselves.' Enhancing a consumers'
        self-image and giving them a sense of being in an exclusive or
        privileged group is important."

    Ah! The plastic people.

       Paul
    Thanks; that IS useful.

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  • From Robert Baer@robertbaer@localnet.com to alt.computer on Wed Oct 14 21:31:44 2020
    VanguardLH wrote:
    Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

    Robert Baer wrote:

    Better than a kick in the head.
    Maybe try to do another photo later; one at a time...
    Gr more important things to do.

    I'm trying to figure out right now, what
    attracted you about Instagram.

    https://www.jou.ufl.edu/insights/why-people-use-instagram-and-what-brands-can-learn/

    "Earlier studies identified 18 to 23-year-olds as the core of Instagram users"

    Those are my people.

    You can see in the text of that article, that a lot of
    sheep shearing is involved.

    "For marketers, a significant implication is that communication via Instagram
    'should make consumers feel good about themselves.' Enhancing a consumers'
    self-image and giving them a sense of being in an exclusive or
    privileged group is important."

    Ah! The plastic people.

    Paul

    Instagram also expires links to photos, and then assigns new links
    (URLs) to the photos. This is to prevent hotlinking, but it also means anyone posting URLs in their blogs, or elsewhere, will lose all those
    photos until they figure out what are the new URLs.

    There used to be an API to let users update the URLs to their Instagram photos, like someone having a blog full of Instagram-hosted photos or
    web sites linking to Instagram photos. The API was close April 2018, so
    now anyone linking to Instagram photos will eventually lose those links.

    It's another facet of Instagram. It is for sharing photos, but not for providing permanent URLs to them. The photos don't go away. It's URLs (links) to them that expire and new ones are created for the photos.

    Their Data Policy is an, um, "interesting" read. See it at:

    https://help.instagram.com/519522125107875?helpref=page_content

    If they suspect you of violating their TOS (whether you agree with their decision or not), they can ban your account from 24-48 hours. They can,
    at their discretion, terminate your account. Besides having to figure
    out what are the new URLs to link to your photos when sharing them or referencing them elsewhere (e.g., your blog or web site), you could lose years of photos and videos without any means of recovering them *if* you thought Instagram was a cloud file storage service, and didn't keep
    copies on your own storage or at a real cloud file storage service.

    For marketers using Instagram as yet another venue to spew their
    content, and because Instagram users are mostly millennials which short attention spans and constantly hungry for new content, content creators
    (aka marketers) have to constantly product new content to feed the
    Instagram community who get easily bored without frequent stimulation.

    You can "follow" a max of 7500 other Instagram users. Follows are so
    tenuous in the first place because of the entire concept of, gee,
    someone strokes your ego by following you, but these same flaky users
    have to unfollow to allow to them spuriously follow some other users. "Unfollows" are common and often. Because of the flaky community, if
    they disagree with any of your content then they unfollow. Think what
    would happen to your real and physical friends if they were no longer
    your friends because of one tiny comment you made to which they did not
    fully agree. Because of the pervasive density of flaky users at
    Instagram, it is a social venue rife with nasty rumor mills.

    Users waste gobs of time at Instagram scrolling through their feed and Explore section. You see all those boobs at the airport wasting their
    time playing Candy Crush and addicted to Instagram.

    So one's ads can become subtracts..
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  • From VanguardLH@V@nguard.LH to alt.computer on Thu Oct 15 07:29:12 2020
    Robert Baer <robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote:

    VanguardLH wrote:
    Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

    Robert Baer wrote:

    Better than a kick in the head.
    Maybe try to do another photo later; one at a time...
    Gr more important things to do.

    I'm trying to figure out right now, what
    attracted you about Instagram.

    https://www.jou.ufl.edu/insights/why-people-use-instagram-and-what-brands-can-learn/

    "Earlier studies identified 18 to 23-year-olds as the core of Instagram users"

    Those are my people.

    You can see in the text of that article, that a lot of
    sheep shearing is involved.

    "For marketers, a significant implication is that communication via Instagram
    'should make consumers feel good about themselves.' Enhancing a consumers'
    self-image and giving them a sense of being in an exclusive or
    privileged group is important."

    Ah! The plastic people.

    Paul

    Instagram also expires links to photos, and then assigns new links
    (URLs) to the photos. This is to prevent hotlinking, but it also means
    anyone posting URLs in their blogs, or elsewhere, will lose all those
    photos until they figure out what are the new URLs.

    There used to be an API to let users update the URLs to their Instagram
    photos, like someone having a blog full of Instagram-hosted photos or
    web sites linking to Instagram photos. The API was close April 2018, so
    now anyone linking to Instagram photos will eventually lose those links.

    It's another facet of Instagram. It is for sharing photos, but not for
    providing permanent URLs to them. The photos don't go away. It's URLs
    (links) to them that expire and new ones are created for the photos.

    Their Data Policy is an, um, "interesting" read. See it at:

    https://help.instagram.com/519522125107875?helpref=page_content

    If they suspect you of violating their TOS (whether you agree with their
    decision or not), they can ban your account from 24-48 hours. They can,
    at their discretion, terminate your account. Besides having to figure
    out what are the new URLs to link to your photos when sharing them or
    referencing them elsewhere (e.g., your blog or web site), you could lose
    years of photos and videos without any means of recovering them *if* you
    thought Instagram was a cloud file storage service, and didn't keep
    copies on your own storage or at a real cloud file storage service.

    For marketers using Instagram as yet another venue to spew their
    content, and because Instagram users are mostly millennials which short
    attention spans and constantly hungry for new content, content creators
    (aka marketers) have to constantly product new content to feed the
    Instagram community who get easily bored without frequent stimulation.

    You can "follow" a max of 7500 other Instagram users. Follows are so
    tenuous in the first place because of the entire concept of, gee,
    someone strokes your ego by following you, but these same flaky users
    have to unfollow to allow to them spuriously follow some other users.
    "Unfollows" are common and often. Because of the flaky community, if
    they disagree with any of your content then they unfollow. Think what
    would happen to your real and physical friends if they were no longer
    your friends because of one tiny comment you made to which they did not
    fully agree. Because of the pervasive density of flaky users at
    Instagram, it is a social venue rife with nasty rumor mills.

    Users waste gobs of time at Instagram scrolling through their feed and
    Explore section. You see all those boobs at the airport wasting their
    time playing Candy Crush and addicted to Instagram.

    So one's ads can become subtracts..

    To me, renewing the URLs pointing at the photos or videos (i.e.,
    periodically changing the URLs) would be a deal breaker for trying to
    store photos or videos at Instagram. When I configure a photo for
    sharing and give the URL to someone, I won't bother to revisit that same
    photo to check if the URL got changed to resend a message to someone
    else declaring the URL got changed by Instagram (not by me).

    They implement that nuisance to prevent hotlinking (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inline_linking) because they think your
    content is their content. It might be as some [social] sites word their
    TOS to state such: anything you upload to them becomes their property. Instagram claims Instagram claims it does not take ownership of its
    users' content yet their terms state that the user grants Instagram a ┤non-exclusive, fully paid and royalty-free, transferable,
    sub-licensable, worldwide license to use their contentí. Seems like
    they think your stuff is their stuff, too, hence their use of their
    hotlinking avoidance scheme. When I give URLs to shared files in my
    OneDrive and Dropbox accounts, those URLs remain fixed the entire time
    the photos are stored there.

    I don't remember mentioning anything about ads. Just like Facebook,
    LinkedIn, Twitter, and other social sites, companies have long been
    utilitizing those to promote themselves. Instagram is just another
    social site where companies can promote themselves. They are an entity
    just like you are, so they get the same privileges to post their content
    as you are. If companies get to pay Instagram to spew ads in the
    content of other users, that would be another reason to avoid Instagram.

    https://blog.hootsuite.com/how-to-use-instagram-for-business/

    You'll find LOTS of business web sites that have links to their
    Facebook, Twitter, and other social site accounts. You think businesses
    are going to forego a free or super-cheap advertising venue? While they
    are allowed to have their own profile or identity at social sites, I
    don't recall users complaining about them injecting ads into the
    profiles or identities of other users. Well, other than the ads that
    companies pay to the social service which may not require a profile at
    that service; i.e., they're just another spammer paying the service who
    uses that revenue to offset the costs of resources they provide to all
    their freeloaders.

    I did find a pro-business site explaining how to advertize on Instagram,
    which said "Instagram ads are posts or Stories that a business pays to
    promote to users' Instagram feeds. They can look just like regular
    Instagram posts, but are always identified by a ┤Sponsoredí label."
    Okay, but ads have become the expected norm for a long time for free
    services and freeware. It's very hard to find a "free" Android app at
    Google's Play Store that isn't adware. The cost for "free" is ads.
    After all, those servers, Internet bandwidth, web design, support, and
    other resources aren't free (you like to get paid for your work, too),
    so most free sites have ads hence why users have had to resort to
    adblockers mostly due to ads becoming overwhelming or rude. To continue
    to exist as a business, they need revenue. You might not want to see
    their ads, especially from 3rd parties. So, we have the ad wars: they
    push ads to stay alive, you block ads to speed up page loads, reduce
    bandwidth, and eliminate unwanted content.

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  • From Robert Baer@robertbaer@localnet.com to alt.computer on Thu Oct 15 21:42:06 2020
    VanguardLH wrote:
    Robert Baer <robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote:

    VanguardLH wrote:
    Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

    Robert Baer wrote:

    Better than a kick in the head.
    Maybe try to do another photo later; one at a time...
    Gr more important things to do.

    I'm trying to figure out right now, what
    attracted you about Instagram.

    https://www.jou.ufl.edu/insights/why-people-use-instagram-and-what-brands-can-learn/

    "Earlier studies identified 18 to 23-year-olds as the core of Instagram users"

    Those are my people.

    You can see in the text of that article, that a lot of
    sheep shearing is involved.

    "For marketers, a significant implication is that communication via Instagram
    'should make consumers feel good about themselves.' Enhancing a consumers'
    self-image and giving them a sense of being in an exclusive or
    privileged group is important."

    Ah! The plastic people.

    Paul

    Instagram also expires links to photos, and then assigns new links
    (URLs) to the photos. This is to prevent hotlinking, but it also means
    anyone posting URLs in their blogs, or elsewhere, will lose all those
    photos until they figure out what are the new URLs.

    There used to be an API to let users update the URLs to their Instagram
    photos, like someone having a blog full of Instagram-hosted photos or
    web sites linking to Instagram photos. The API was close April 2018, so >>> now anyone linking to Instagram photos will eventually lose those links. >>>
    It's another facet of Instagram. It is for sharing photos, but not for
    providing permanent URLs to them. The photos don't go away. It's URLs
    (links) to them that expire and new ones are created for the photos.

    Their Data Policy is an, um, "interesting" read. See it at:

    https://help.instagram.com/519522125107875?helpref=page_content

    If they suspect you of violating their TOS (whether you agree with their >>> decision or not), they can ban your account from 24-48 hours. They can, >>> at their discretion, terminate your account. Besides having to figure
    out what are the new URLs to link to your photos when sharing them or
    referencing them elsewhere (e.g., your blog or web site), you could lose >>> years of photos and videos without any means of recovering them *if* you >>> thought Instagram was a cloud file storage service, and didn't keep
    copies on your own storage or at a real cloud file storage service.

    For marketers using Instagram as yet another venue to spew their
    content, and because Instagram users are mostly millennials which short
    attention spans and constantly hungry for new content, content creators
    (aka marketers) have to constantly product new content to feed the
    Instagram community who get easily bored without frequent stimulation.

    You can "follow" a max of 7500 other Instagram users. Follows are so
    tenuous in the first place because of the entire concept of, gee,
    someone strokes your ego by following you, but these same flaky users
    have to unfollow to allow to them spuriously follow some other users.
    "Unfollows" are common and often. Because of the flaky community, if
    they disagree with any of your content then they unfollow. Think what
    would happen to your real and physical friends if they were no longer
    your friends because of one tiny comment you made to which they did not
    fully agree. Because of the pervasive density of flaky users at
    Instagram, it is a social venue rife with nasty rumor mills.

    Users waste gobs of time at Instagram scrolling through their feed and
    Explore section. You see all those boobs at the airport wasting their
    time playing Candy Crush and addicted to Instagram.

    So one's ads can become subtracts..

    To me, renewing the URLs pointing at the photos or videos (i.e.,
    periodically changing the URLs) would be a deal breaker for trying to
    store photos or videos at Instagram. When I configure a photo for
    sharing and give the URL to someone, I won't bother to revisit that same photo to check if the URL got changed to resend a message to someone
    else declaring the URL got changed by Instagram (not by me).

    They implement that nuisance to prevent hotlinking (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inline_linking) because they think your
    content is their content. It might be as some [social] sites word their
    TOS to state such: anything you upload to them becomes their property. Instagram claims Instagram claims it does not take ownership of its
    users' content yet their terms state that the user grants Instagram a ┤non-exclusive, fully paid and royalty-free, transferable,
    sub-licensable, worldwide license to use their contentí. Seems like
    they think your stuff is their stuff, too, hence their use of their hotlinking avoidance scheme. When I give URLs to shared files in my
    OneDrive and Dropbox accounts, those URLs remain fixed the entire time
    the photos are stored there.

    I don't remember mentioning anything about ads. Just like Facebook, LinkedIn, Twitter, and other social sites, companies have long been utilitizing those to promote themselves. Instagram is just another
    social site where companies can promote themselves. They are an entity
    just like you are, so they get the same privileges to post their content
    as you are. If companies get to pay Instagram to spew ads in the
    content of other users, that would be another reason to avoid Instagram.

    https://blog.hootsuite.com/how-to-use-instagram-for-business/

    You'll find LOTS of business web sites that have links to their
    Facebook, Twitter, and other social site accounts. You think businesses
    are going to forego a free or super-cheap advertising venue? While they
    are allowed to have their own profile or identity at social sites, I
    don't recall users complaining about them injecting ads into the
    profiles or identities of other users. Well, other than the ads that companies pay to the social service which may not require a profile at
    that service; i.e., they're just another spammer paying the service who
    uses that revenue to offset the costs of resources they provide to all
    their freeloaders.

    I did find a pro-business site explaining how to advertize on Instagram, which said "Instagram ads are posts or Stories that a business pays to promote to users' Instagram feeds. They can look just like regular
    Instagram posts, but are always identified by a ┤Sponsoredí label."
    Okay, but ads have become the expected norm for a long time for free
    services and freeware. It's very hard to find a "free" Android app at Google's Play Store that isn't adware. The cost for "free" is ads.
    After all, those servers, Internet bandwidth, web design, support, and
    other resources aren't free (you like to get paid for your work, too),
    so most free sites have ads hence why users have had to resort to
    adblockers mostly due to ads becoming overwhelming or rude. To continue
    to exist as a business, they need revenue. You might not want to see
    their ads, especially from 3rd parties. So, we have the ad wars: they
    push ads to stay alive, you block ads to speed up page loads, reduce bandwidth, and eliminate unwanted content.

    Thanks; now have only one image posted, which will do nicely.
    Photobucket was worse, and they are now toast.

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