• We Legalized Our Sins; Now They Are Coming Back to Bite Us | Opinion

    From Thank Democrats@complete-morons@democrats.org to alt.politics.marijuana, alt.society.liberalism, sac.politics,talk.politics.guns, talk.politics.misc on Wed Dec 11 05:59:11 2024
    As I lay moaning in the emergency room, it dawned on me how badly our
    country had screwed up.

    I'd been admitted for intractable nausea. By a weird coincidence, the
    young woman loudly retching in the next bed had, too. But with one crucial difference: I don't use cannabis, and she does, frequently. She's in fact
    made many emergency room trips for the same problem. So the doctors
    suspected she was suffering from cannabinoid hyperemesisua condition where regular cannabis users get overcome by severe nausea, vomiting, and pain.
    Some can eventually lose teeth from all the stomach acid they throw up.

    Never heard of it? You're not alone, but you will. Rates of cannabinoid hyperemesis have risen so quicklyuER visits for it in the United States doubled from 2017 to 2021uthat it has gone from that a rarity 20 years ago
    to afflicting 6 million Americans today.

    But tooth-melting vomit is just the tip of the iceberg.

    Cannabis users now develop psychosis at five times the rate of non-users.
    The National Institutes of Health estimates that 30 percent of
    schizophrenia cases among men aged 21-30 are caused by cannabis. And
    overall, 18 million Americans now show signs of a cannabis substance use disorder.

    Pause on that last figureuits implications are stunning. As Dr. Wilson Compton, deputy director of the National Institute on Drug Abuse, told The
    New York Times, it means that "almost everybody that uses [cannabis] every
    day is reporting problems with it."

    Almost everybody.

    There may be even more going on. For instance, rates of depression,
    especially among younger Americans, have been rising rapidly in the past decade. One popular explanation is the increase in social media use, a
    known factor in mental health problems. But notice that the cannabis use revolution also happened at the same time. Studies show that depression
    and cannabis are linked, but which causes the other? Scientists aren't
    sure. The same is true for many other conditions. The most comprehensive report available on the medical effects of cannabisua 2017 book-length compendium from the National Academies of Scienceuis shatteringly inconclusive. Heart attacks? Breathing problems? Strokes? There are
    concerning indications. But we can't really say.

    And however far-reaching the cannabis effect is, the situation is likely
    to get way worse in the years ahead. We've dumped so much easy-access
    cannabis onto America that usage is exploding, with no sign of slowing
    down. Under one million Americans used the drug daily 30 years ago. Today, it's 17.7 million. Almost one-fifth of us have used it at least once in
    the past three years. Among Americans who use some intoxicating substance daily, more now use cannabis than alcohol. The train is accelerating.

    And here's the real kicker. Everything we know about the harmsuwhich is ominousumay be staggeringly incomplete, because of the industry's biggest not-so-secret: they're not selling us the thing we thought we legalized.

    Cannabis products today are anywhere from four to 24 times
    strongerumeasured in terms of concentration of the psychoactive compound
    in it, tetrahydrocannabinol (THC)uthan the weed you might have scored 25
    years ago. For practical purposes, it's not the same stuff we studied in
    the past, which is rarely even available anymore. And since state laws
    meant to impose some dosage limits are based on weight, not potency, they
    are essentially meaningless.

    Imagine if Tylenol were illegal. Then people began noticing that taking a couple of pills made them feel good and didn't seem too harmful. So, a
    bunch of states legalized it. Then manufacturers upped the dose to the equivalent of 40 pills. Except people usually didn't know they were taking that much because it was sold in confusing new forms. And then millions of them started getting really sick.

    That's essentially the story of cannabis in the past 20 years.

    How did we end up in this great American bait-and-switch? From the late
    1990s into the early 2000's, advocates were able to point to relatively well-demonstrated benefits for certain patients from mild, old-timey pot,
    and thereby convince legislators to allow cannabis for medicinal purposes
    in a handful of states. The resulting "system" was a confusing patchwork,
    but it didn't cause widespread problems.

    Then, in the mid-2010s, several forces came together. People got used to
    these apparently harmless state experiments, so popular support for full legalization sharply rose. Business interests saw an opportunity and
    funded massive lobbying at the state level, emphasizing economic arguments
    on the right and social justice arguments on the leftuboth of which had
    some merit. In the following years, 11 states gave in to the pressure. In
    13 others, advocates went straight to voters with referenda. Today, 39
    states allow "medical marijuana," and 24 have full legalization.

    But that distinction doesn't really matter anymore, due to the sneakiest bait-and switch that put the final nail in America's cannabis coffin.
    Because in 2018, Congress inadvertently legalized weed everywhere.

    You read that right. The TL;DR is that what was pitched to Congress as a simple move to legalize hemp for industrial uses became, with some slick innovations in chemistry, a way for producers to sell gobs of potent, intoxicating, legal THC products anywhere in the US.

    So that's our current reality: a powerful psychoactive substance that we
    are just beginning to study at this dosage is available everywhere, and millions are developing problems.

    Is there anything to be done? Yes, a little-noticed September report from
    the National Academies of Science recommended practical steps that are
    still within the realm of the possible, and that could help. Among many
    other steps, Congress could undo the loophole that legalized THC products nationally. The CDC could and should create best practices to improve
    state regulations. There could be more a lot more research on these concentrated new products.

    But no, it is hard to have any confidence that President-elect Donald
    Trump's chosen leadership at federal agencies, or the Republican-
    controlled congress, will act.

    And the harder challenge is that cannabis is itself the tip of an even
    bigger cultural iceberg tearing through the country. As Michael Lewis brilliantly documented in his podcast Against the Rules, at the same time
    that cannabis advocates were sinking their teeth into legislatures, online sports betting lobbyists managed to legalize their product in about as
    many states, unleashing a wave of problem gambling in the country. Today's betting apps attack potential addicts with the ferocity of algorithmic
    sharks, and there's plenty of blood in the water.

    At the same time, how else to describe the last 15 years of having social media in our pockets but a vast, real-time experiment on our brains and
    social constructs when we're all exposed to highly addictive activities
    that are known to affect our moods and understanding of basic facts? For
    that matter, we seem to have let go of the rope on online pornography
    toouan industry that, according to advocacy group Fight the New Drug, now rakes in $97 billion a year, harvests sensitive viewer data, and produces often violent content that has been seen by three-quarters of American
    teens and badly distorts their perceptions of normal sex.

    We have entered the "yeehaw" era of American governance. And as we keep legalizing all our vices, they seem to be coming back at us awfully hard
    and awfully fast. So, we shrug and take another dose. Welcome to the brave
    new world.

    https://www.newsweek.com/we-legalized-our-sins-now-they-are-coming-back- bite-us-opinion-1998154
  • From 186282@ud0s4.net@186283@ud0s4.net to alt.politics.marijuana,alt.society.liberalism,sac.politics,talk.politics.guns,talk.politics.misc on Wed Dec 11 00:39:18 2024
    On 12/10/24 11:59 PM, Thank Democrats wrote:
    As I lay moaning in the emergency room, it dawned on me how badly our
    country had screwed up.

    I'd been admitted for intractable nausea. By a weird coincidence, the
    young woman loudly retching in the next bed had, too. But with one crucial difference: I don't use cannabis, and she does, frequently. She's in fact made many emergency room trips for the same problem. So the doctors
    suspected she was suffering from cannabinoid hyperemesisrCoa condition where regular cannabis users get overcome by severe nausea, vomiting, and pain. Some can eventually lose teeth from all the stomach acid they throw up.

    Never heard of it? You're not alone, but you will. Rates of cannabinoid hyperemesis have risen so quicklyrCoER visits for it in the United States doubled from 2017 to 2021rCothat it has gone from that a rarity 20 years ago to afflicting 6 million Americans today.

    But tooth-melting vomit is just the tip of the iceberg.

    Cannabis users now develop psychosis at five times the rate of non-users.
    The National Institutes of Health estimates that 30 percent of
    schizophrenia cases among men aged 21-30 are caused by cannabis. And
    overall, 18 million Americans now show signs of a cannabis substance use disorder.

    Pause on that last figurerCoits implications are stunning. As Dr. Wilson Compton, deputy director of the National Institute on Drug Abuse, told The New York Times, it means that "almost everybody that uses [cannabis] every day is reporting problems with it."

    Almost everybody.

    There may be even more going on. For instance, rates of depression, especially among younger Americans, have been rising rapidly in the past decade. One popular explanation is the increase in social media use, a
    known factor in mental health problems. But notice that the cannabis use revolution also happened at the same time. Studies show that depression
    and cannabis are linked, but which causes the other? Scientists aren't
    sure. The same is true for many other conditions. The most comprehensive report available on the medical effects of cannabisrCoa 2017 book-length compendium from the National Academies of SciencerCois shatteringly inconclusive. Heart attacks? Breathing problems? Strokes? There are concerning indications. But we can't really say.

    And however far-reaching the cannabis effect is, the situation is likely
    to get way worse in the years ahead. We've dumped so much easy-access cannabis onto America that usage is exploding, with no sign of slowing
    down. Under one million Americans used the drug daily 30 years ago. Today, it's 17.7 million. Almost one-fifth of us have used it at least once in
    the past three years. Among Americans who use some intoxicating substance daily, more now use cannabis than alcohol. The train is accelerating.

    And here's the real kicker. Everything we know about the harmsrCowhich is ominousrComay be staggeringly incomplete, because of the industry's biggest not-so-secret: they're not selling us the thing we thought we legalized.

    Cannabis products today are anywhere from four to 24 times strongerrComeasured in terms of concentration of the psychoactive compound
    in it, tetrahydrocannabinol (THC)rCothan the weed you might have scored 25 years ago. For practical purposes, it's not the same stuff we studied in
    the past, which is rarely even available anymore. And since state laws
    meant to impose some dosage limits are based on weight, not potency, they
    are essentially meaningless.

    Imagine if Tylenol were illegal. Then people began noticing that taking a couple of pills made them feel good and didn't seem too harmful. So, a
    bunch of states legalized it. Then manufacturers upped the dose to the equivalent of 40 pills. Except people usually didn't know they were taking that much because it was sold in confusing new forms. And then millions of them started getting really sick.

    That's essentially the story of cannabis in the past 20 years.

    How did we end up in this great American bait-and-switch? From the late
    1990s into the early 2000's, advocates were able to point to relatively well-demonstrated benefits for certain patients from mild, old-timey pot,
    and thereby convince legislators to allow cannabis for medicinal purposes
    in a handful of states. The resulting "system" was a confusing patchwork,
    but it didn't cause widespread problems.

    Then, in the mid-2010s, several forces came together. People got used to these apparently harmless state experiments, so popular support for full legalization sharply rose. Business interests saw an opportunity and
    funded massive lobbying at the state level, emphasizing economic arguments
    on the right and social justice arguments on the leftrCoboth of which had some merit. In the following years, 11 states gave in to the pressure. In
    13 others, advocates went straight to voters with referenda. Today, 39
    states allow "medical marijuana," and 24 have full legalization.

    But that distinction doesn't really matter anymore, due to the sneakiest bait-and switch that put the final nail in America's cannabis coffin.
    Because in 2018, Congress inadvertently legalized weed everywhere.

    You read that right. The TL;DR is that what was pitched to Congress as a simple move to legalize hemp for industrial uses became, with some slick innovations in chemistry, a way for producers to sell gobs of potent, intoxicating, legal THC products anywhere in the US.

    So that's our current reality: a powerful psychoactive substance that we
    are just beginning to study at this dosage is available everywhere, and millions are developing problems.

    Is there anything to be done? Yes, a little-noticed September report from
    the National Academies of Science recommended practical steps that are
    still within the realm of the possible, and that could help. Among many
    other steps, Congress could undo the loophole that legalized THC products nationally. The CDC could and should create best practices to improve
    state regulations. There could be more a lot more research on these concentrated new products.

    But no, it is hard to have any confidence that President-elect Donald
    Trump's chosen leadership at federal agencies, or the Republican-
    controlled congress, will act.

    And the harder challenge is that cannabis is itself the tip of an even
    bigger cultural iceberg tearing through the country. As Michael Lewis brilliantly documented in his podcast Against the Rules, at the same time that cannabis advocates were sinking their teeth into legislatures, online sports betting lobbyists managed to legalize their product in about as
    many states, unleashing a wave of problem gambling in the country. Today's betting apps attack potential addicts with the ferocity of algorithmic sharks, and there's plenty of blood in the water.

    At the same time, how else to describe the last 15 years of having social media in our pockets but a vast, real-time experiment on our brains and social constructs when we're all exposed to highly addictive activities
    that are known to affect our moods and understanding of basic facts? For
    that matter, we seem to have let go of the rope on online pornography toorCoan industry that, according to advocacy group Fight the New Drug, now rakes in $97 billion a year, harvests sensitive viewer data, and produces often violent content that has been seen by three-quarters of American
    teens and badly distorts their perceptions of normal sex.

    We have entered the "yeehaw" era of American governance. And as we keep legalizing all our vices, they seem to be coming back at us awfully hard
    and awfully fast. So, we shrug and take another dose. Welcome to the brave new world.

    https://www.newsweek.com/we-legalized-our-sins-now-they-are-coming-back- bite-us-opinion-1998154


    Ummmm ... grease it up and stick yer righteous
    Puritan manual up yer ass ....

    Chug too much whisky and you'll puke and die.

    Drink too much water and you'll puke and die.

    Let's not even talk cheeseburgers ....

    Oh, what IS "normal sex" ? All the historical stuff
    shows a very WIDE variety since forever ....

    Seems you've sealed yourself into some tiny
    self-righteous bubble - nothing but reflections
    of your own ideas and prejudices.

    Oh ... why the 'guns' group ? Planning to kill
    somebody ?
  • From vjp2.at@vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com to alt.politics.marijuana,alt.society.liberalism,sac.politics,talk.politics.guns,talk.politics.misc on Wed Dec 11 06:07:19 2024
    Legalised alcohol gave us Kennedy
    Legalised gambling gave us Trump
    What will legalised drugs & prostitution give us?
    --
    Vasos Panagiotopoulos panix.com/~vjp2/vasos.htm
    ---{Nothing herein constitutes advice. Everything fully disclaimed.}---
  • From Nomen Nescio@nobody@dizum.com to alt.politics.marijuana,alt.society.liberalism,sac.politics,talk.politics.guns,talk.politics.misc on Wed Dec 11 08:39:57 2024
    In article <vjba6n$c72$1@reader2.panix.com> vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com wrote:

    Legalised alcohol gave us Kennedy
    Legalised gambling gave us Trump
    What will legalised drugs & prostitution give us?


    Pete Hegseth
  • From 186282@ud0s4.net@186283@ud0s4.net to alt.politics.marijuana,alt.society.liberalism,sac.politics,talk.politics.guns,talk.politics.misc on Wed Dec 11 03:00:28 2024
    On 12/11/24 1:07 AM, vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com wrote:
    Legalised alcohol gave us Kennedy
    Legalised gambling gave us Trump
    What will legalised drugs & prostitution give us?

    Lotsa FUN actually :-)