• Re: Drugs Ought To Be Marketed As Medicine And Sold Out Of Sight On Demand - At The Likes Of Pharmacies, With All Kinds Of Labeling

    From Pluted Pup@plutedpup@outlook.com to alt.abuse.recovery,alt.politics.marijuana,alt.recovery.from-12-steps,alt.recovery.na,alt.support.marijuana.medical on Tue Apr 21 23:54:56 2026
    On 10/31/24 10:33 AM, Intelligent Party wrote:
    Drugs ought to be marketed as medicine and sold out of sight on demand,
    at the likes of Pharmacies, with all kinds of labeling.

    Counter-proposal: how about prosecuting
    anyone who supplies a drug under the more
    punitive laws against drug dealing? Someone
    who gives drugs to a "friend", or provides
    drugs to a lover, or as a payment for services
    rendered certainly merits the definition of a
    drug dealer, and an especially dangerous
    drug dealer, an enemy posing as a friend.
    Prosecute every overdose as a manslaughter,
    as the drug provided did not contain an
    ingredients list or disclosing it's strength,
    and proof of it's safety and effectiveness.



    Shutting down our Pharmacies (Rite Aid) for the drug war, is criminal.

    If it's a drug war I haven't heard of any
    corrupt officials being charged with the
    most serious crime of treason. Certainly
    every drug trafficker is a traitor or a
    soldier of a foreign power. The high death
    rate in the drug world is caused by corruption,
    not laws against drugs.

    Practically the world drug traffic requires
    corruption to operate. But you drug legalizers
    make no complaints about this corruption, as
    that's how drugs are produced. The best friends
    of criminals are the corrupt.


    There would be no Opioid crisis if Codeine were sold as it was, at Rite

    You are completely ignorant of narcotics by
    your suggestion that legalizing codeine
    suppresses other opioids.

    This codeine statement reminds me of the old
    slogan by drug legalizers: "deaths from heroin
    are caused by laws against marijuana".


    Aid.-a No one would use any opiate more potent than Codeine, today, which
    your body turns into Morphine.-a Codeine is already as bad for you as
    liquor, which is the devil's drug.-a No one would use Morphine,
    Oxycontin, Heroin, or Fentanyl, which are all more potent, than Codeine,
    in order.-a No alcoholic, today, drinks 75%-99% alcohol, even though it
    is widely available and stocked at any liquor store.-a If one outlawed
    alcohol today, 99% alcohol is almost ALL that would be for sale, and
    alcoholics would be using only 99%.-a This is why there's an Opoid
    Pandemic.-a No one would use any opiate more potent than Codeine, today,
    which your body turns into Morphine.

    Christians, supposedly passed the 18th Amendment, which banned the

    Quit lying, atheists and Jews also supported banning
    alcohol. You are inserting current anti-prohibition
    politics over the past.

    And get your facts right: Capone and the gang
    openly advocated repeal of prohibition, just
    like drug dealers openly advocate legalizing drugs.
    There is an army of thugs behind legalization,
    and the lying slogans about Only Criminals Support
    Prohibition shows how dishonest the legalizers are.

    manufacture of alcohol, yet Jesus turned water into wine.-a Jesus would
    turn flour into cocaine today, and drink wine in public today, believe
    me you.

    Jesus is not under your laws, and neither are we.-a You are under no laws
    but God's.-a What the U.S. is, is called "criminal oppression."

    There you go, you say laws against drugs are
    criminal oppression. No they're not, they are
    wonderful laws, they spotlight the corrupt;
    surely no official who illegally tolerates drugs
    can be trusted in any capacity for more important
    stuff.


    A nation of laws, is a nation of wrongs.-a I SAY, the U.S. is a nation of
    _rights_, and there is no wrong unless there is a right violated.

    All prohibition is wrongful condemnation.-a Abortion.-a Guns.-a Sexuality. >> Drugs.-a Use of the Public Lands.-a All prohibition is akin to persecuting >> witchcraft.-a All prohibition is witch killing.-a All prohibition is
    persecution of a minority interest, which is genocide.-a All prohibition
    is wrongful contempt.-a All prohibition is hate crime.-a All prohibition
    is prison.-a Politicians practicing prohibition, are broken arrows, at
    war on the American people.-a The war on drugs, is war on the people, and
    treason.-a It doesn't matter how many votes, the politicians get. America
    is for ALL people, however disparate their interests might be. Judging
    people who are different than you, is prejudice.


    Counter-proposal, how about you crusaders for drugs
    first demonstrate the safety and good will of the
    drug dealing community, then, and only then, can we
    begin the debate on drug legalization?

    It would be great to not have drug prohibition, if it
    weren't necessary. But the malicious and criminal
    nature of drug proselytizers is proof that drug
    prohibition is needed.

    The evil of the drug legalizing people makes it obvious
    that their demands must be fought against. Their
    malice, their sadistic hatred of the weak and
    defenseless, is itself criminal minded. Burglars,
    rapists, gangs, corporate crime, murderers, corrupt
    officials, etc., all want drugs legal, which is a great
    reason for normal people to oppose your demands, under
    the common sense deduction that Like Causes Like.



    "The cause of freedom is not the cause of a race or sect, a party or a
    classrCorCoit is the cause of humankind, the very birthright of humanity." >> - Anna Julia Cooper,
    - On all U.S. Passports!



    The U.S. criminal justice system has not risen to the lofty level of "an
    eye for an eye," much less the ministry of forgiveness.-a The U.S.
    criminal justice system, is vengeance on the innocent, justifying itself
    by doctrine.-a We are not justified by doctrine, but by truth.-a An eye
    for an eye, and the whole world would be FREE, since the government
    maintains a corner on vengeance!-a Vengeance is crime, and all it can
    serve, is to make a lie not persist perpetrated by the unrepentant, (and
    even more so, what if you're just negative for nothing).-a Why would
    it (vengeance) be legal for a government?-a It is not.-a Forgiveness, lifts the
    darkness, reasserts your will, and lets you look upon a world of light.
    This world of light, this circle of brightness, is the real world, where
    guilt meets with forgiveness.

    God is love and light, and within, and one with you.-a And he does love
    you, and everyone your country has killed, as well as those who killed
    them.

    "For Satan accuses our brethren before our God day and night."
    Revelations 12:10


    Drugs ought to be marketed as medicine, and sold out of sight on demand,
    at the likes of Pharmacies, with all kinds of labeling.

    This means all drugs, to all ages on demand, without prescription.-a For
    government imposed age discrimination is crime.-a With more labeling
    information, and recommendations how to use/not use, warnings,
    degree/level danger of the drug clearly specified.-a People who can buy,
    can read.

    Also, people need to be informed, to use the less potent drugs.-a They're
    not intelligent without greater information.-a You don't want to inhale
    nor inject potent drugs.-a The Heroin, Crack, Crystal Meth, etc. should
    point people to the less potent varieties: Codeine, Cocaine, Speed,
    respectively.-a Identifying, and describing, the potency differences.
    However, this can all become conventional wisdom, and easily understood
    by everyone, as 151 RUM is.-a 151 RUM DOES say it's 75% alcohol on the
    bottle.-a No Heroin or Crack dealer ever said CRAP!-a ...they just want to >> sell you something.


    We have a nation of 165 million alcohol users, and of those, 25 million
    alcohol ABUSERS (who drink more than 10 drinks per day).-a We don't want
    to market drugs as recreation like alcohol.-a Furthermore, anyone using
    liquor, or any other potent drug, more than two days per week, is going
    to become an alcoholic/addict and end up in AA/NA.-a For every day you
    use a drug, don't use it for three.-a The label should say as much.-a Most >> sane partiers party twice per month, while twice per week is merely the
    max on the same drug.-a If you use more, as a chronic user, quit for two
    months, right now, to prove you're in control, and then go back to, "for
    every day you use, don't use for three," only if you must.-a Even better,
    if you do drink, limit yourself to no more than two drinks, and don't
    get trashed.-a You will have a better time.-a Make 2x2 your max.-a Even the >> high never gets better than the first drink.-a You don't want to inject,
    nor inhale, potent drugs, _at all_.-a Drugs use up all your good feelings
    at once, or numb your bad feelings.-a Doing alcohol or drugs, is like
    riding roller coasters, and who rides roller coasters more than a few
    times per year - the marginal benefit diminishes after the first few
    times, period.-a Drugs are a social, and a mental impediment, and don't
    help you "get the girl/guy."-a Drunk people are socially repulsive.-a Try
    drinking water when you socialize, and get a good night's sleep.-a All
    this, and it is 100% your right to drink and be drunk in public at all
    ages.-a 70% of college students drink at age 18, proving it is legal, and
    the government is a crime.-a Government imposed age discrimination is a
    crime, and we do not accept erroneous laws.


    Boneheads merely said "put cigarettes behind the counter," so you have
    to ask for them.-a But they put them behind the checkout counter, and now
    they exist as an impulse item.-a I'm saying, put them out of sight, no
    one cares if you have to ask for them, it doesn't temper anything, it's
    just slightly more annoying.-a It should be, behind a CURTAIN, or through
    a separate entrance.-a I don't smoke cigarettes.-a Put more warnings on
    them, it's crime to sell them as a recreational item, as it's crime to
    sell snake oil as a cure for cancer.-a You can't lie about what you're
    selling.-a They're just not fit for human consumption. However, if you
    choose to use them for human consumption, it is better to do so in this
    manner...
    _The label should say so much as that_.-a Even so, you have a RIGHT to
    smoke tobacco in public all day (if you're not blowing it in someone's
    face, sitting in the same place), and we take offense at all these
    prohibitions of our lawful use of our public property and liberty, and
    you likewise have a right to huff glue, as it's your body, your glue,
    your right to huff it, even if you're stupid if you do so.-a You're not
    guilty by doctrine.-a But people persecuting you by doctrine _are_ guilty
    by fact, so far as right and wrong and guilt go.-a Believing in guilt is
    not right, but this doesn't give a pass to moral relativism.-a There is
    truth and error.-a There is forgiveness for the repentant, and those who
    do not forgive the repentant _are_ guilty.-a The criminal justice system
    should be about redemption, not degradation.-a We should all have firm
    faith and belief that criminals have degraded themselves sufficiently by
    *committing* the crime, when a true crime, as judged by legal SCIENCE,
    and God, and according to the TRUTH.-a Criminals just need to recognize
    what they did was crime - when it's real crime, not drug trafficking,
    and be redeemed from their victimization of others.-a Not further
    degraded, as they've already degraded themselves completely through
    serial rape or whatnot.-a (But this type of criminal, only constitutes
    less than 15% of the "justice" system).-a It's apparently the worry of
    *their* belief in *their* activities that fuels the vengeance system.

    Drugs cost your body the same no matter how rich you are.-a Employed now,
    and think you have time and money so you can go out drinking?-a Cost on
    your body is still the same.-a Multi-millionaire, so you think you can
    afford to smoke Meth now?-a Cost on your body is still the same.-a To
    quote "Top Gun," "your ego's writing checks, your body can't cash."
    Don't be a bonehead, life is about Science, Art, and Friends.-a In other
    words, Work and Friends.-a Everything's enrichment or enjoyment.
    Enrichment increases happiness forever.-a Do some work and be productive,
    and be richer for it today.

    As for drugs, as Nancy Reagan said, "Just say no."-a And fuck the U.S.
    criminal justice system.

    Drugs ought to be marketed as medicine, and sold out of sight on demand,
    at the likes of Pharmacies, with all kinds of labeling.